Miranda is shot, damaged goods....Ward is nothing special

[fightfan_79]

Pavlik destroyed Miranda in 7 rounds

Abraham destroyed Miranda in 4 rounds


Ward couldn't even knockdown or stop a shot Miranda.

Maybe becuase Ward is not a puncher....he is a Boxer. Big difference....I guarantee IF Ward is given a shot at both Pavlik and King Aurthur....he would out-box the both of them....having the power to KO someone is onething...having the focus and skill to box for 12 rounds is another, not that many fighters posses that trait anymore.
Miranda is not shot, he is just not elite and never was....stop the hating and just give credit.....watch the fight...Ward's corner kept telling him "Box him, that southpaw is killin him, don't go for the KO, just keep boxing him"....if Ward WANTED to go for the KD/ KO, i'm pretty sure he could've gotten it. He just didn't want to get to reckless...Miranda still has the right hand bomb...all it takes is ONE Punch in this crazy game of boxing.

[The Underboss]

He is shot but it was because of Pavlik.

Abraham Made him go down to 166 and he was already shot.


But I agree, Ward doesn't impress me.

I agree, a fighter who is always hugging like a ***** doesn't impress me at all.

[-Swizzy-]

You're either a hater or you're vastly vastly overrating Wards power.

EDIT : Lol nvm you just compared it to Taylors, yeah you're an idiot.

Oh, so Taylor's power isn't even comparable to Ward? lol, and I'm the hater here?

plz give me proof of taylor having more power than Ward? oh thats right, there isn't any.

and there is nothing about froch that I hate. he just isn't on ward's level. thats all.

[fightfan_79]

I agree, a fighter who is always hugging like a ***** doesn't impress me at all.

Ward will UNIFY the SMW division.....will he impress you then?
And clinching to smother a puncher's strength is not a ***** move....its called strategy. Miranda is a puncher....take that away and you see what a boxer with moderate power can do....in Ward's other fights, he doesn't clinch as much as he did against Miranda.

[TEDetc]

Oh, so Taylor's power isn't even comparable to Ward?

Of course it's comparable...you can compare anything, but is it equal? No. Taylor clearly hits harder the fact he dropped Froch and Pavlik should be proof enough or you could actually watch how he throws his punches.

lol, and I'm the hater here?

Uhm, what? Who am I hating on? Uhm???? Please direct me to the part where I'm hating on a boxer in that last post, thanks.

plz give me proof of taylor having more power than Ward? oh thats right, there isn't any.

He dropped Pavlik at 160 and Froch at 168. Who has Ward dropped again...?

and there is nothing about froch that I hate. he just isn't on ward's level. thats all.

You basically said Froch's on the level of Miranda and Andre would win by early tko (when there's absolutely nothing in Andres achievements and fights thus far which even remotely suggest this) and you're trying to tell me you don't hate Froch? You've got to be the biggest ****ing idiot I've encountered on here, and yes I've seen Lady Fan.

[-Swizzy-]

Of course it's comparable...you can compare anything, but is it equal? No. Taylor clearly hits harder the fact he dropped Froch and Pavlik should be proof enough or you could actually watch how he throws his punches.

Uhm, what? Who am I hating on? Uhm???? Please direct me to the part where I'm hating on a boxer in that last post, thanks.

He dropped Pavlik at 160 and Froch at 168. Who has Ward dropped again...?

You basically said Froch's on the level of Miranda and Andre would win by early tko (when there's absolutely nothing in Andres achievements and fights thus far which even remotely suggest this) and you're trying to tell me you don't hate Froch? You've got to be the biggest ****ing idiot I've encountered on here, and yes I've seen Lady Fan.

hypocrisy at its best here. you want me to direct you to where you hated? how about you do the same for when you accused me of hating.

Taylor dropping pavlik and froch, is proof that he hits harder than ward? why is that, did ward ever have a hard time dropping pavlik or froch?? oh thats right, he didn't because he has never fought them.

ward's punches as far as I could SEE are just as hard as taylor's. there isn't any proof suggesting otherwise.

and it appears that you are froch's brother or something? no?? either that or you have some other personal issues in your life.

I watched ward's style of fighting and abilities, and then froch's style and ablities, and made my prediction. my prediction isn't anywhere as far fetched as some ppl saying that ward isn't anything special.

and I wouldn't PMS if someone suggested that froch could beat ward because I'm not related to ward nor do I hate myself.

[TEDetc]

hypocrisy at its best here. you want me to direct you to where you hated? how about you do the same for when you accused me of hating.

You need to learn how to read kid, I explained where you was hating in my last paragraph /dolt.

As for your arguements on Taylors power vs Wards your arguement fails when you put into the equation, Taylor has proven he hits very hard by knocking down two of the greatest chins around right now, Ward is unproven in his power punching @ such a level so any arguements reguarding Ward being able to knock down Froch or Pavlik is PURE speculation with absolutely no basis or proof whereas Taylors power can be measured as he's actually knocked down the two said fighters. I ask you once again, who has Ward knocked down?

So it comes down to this : Taylor a proven TOP level power puncher vs Ward a top level prospect who hasn't proven **** yet in reguards to power punching. I'm going with Taylor, to go with Ward would be the equivalent of saying a fighter with 0 fights can hit as hard as Taylor, he just hasn't had the chance to prove it yet - a strawmans arguement and one commonly used by nut-huggers (from my experience with them).

there isn't any proof suggesting otherwise.

Their is, you're just too dumb to comprehend it.

and I wouldn't PMS if someone suggested that froch could beat ward because I'm not related to ward nor do I hate myself.

I wouldn't PMS if you wasn't an absolute ****ing buffoon who bases all his arguements on pure speculation which hold absolutely no credit when looking at things objectively. I can see Ward out-pointing Froch but an early TKO? based on what? Exactly.

my prediction isn't anywhere as far fetched as some ppl saying that ward isn't anything special.

Depends how you define special, Ward is a very good fighter though.

Btw what's this "r u Frochs brothar or smth mental izzuez" **** about? I'm just baffled by how you think Ward would TKO Froch early and your arguement for this is - he hits as hard as Taylor? ......


I'm done in here man you're ****ing ****** or bat**** insane. Think whatever you want, Ward hits harder than Taylor? Sure. I hit harder than Taylor aswell, just haven't had the chance to prove it.

[portuge puncher]

Maybe becuase Ward is not a puncher....he is a Boxer. Big difference....I guarantee IF Ward is given a shot at both Pavlik and King Aurthur....he would out-box the both of them....having the power to KO someone is onething...having the focus and skill to box for 12 rounds is another, not that many fighters posses that trait anymore.
Miranda is not shot, he is just not elite and never was....stop the hating and just give credit.....watch the fight...Ward's corner kept telling him "Box him, that southpaw is killin him, don't go for the KO, just keep boxing him"....if Ward WANTED to go for the KD/ KO, i'm pretty sure he could've gotten it. He just didn't want to get to reckless...Miranda still has the right hand bomb...all it takes is ONE Punch in this crazy game of boxing.

good post, i agree

[Squabbles94806]

Whatever ya'll say about Ward, ima still support him cus he's a local. That's how we do it out here...keep it homegrown. Just give him some time, then we'll see what people say.

[-Swizzy-]

You need to learn how to read kid, I explained where you was hating in my last paragraph /dolt.

As for your arguements on Taylors power vs Wards your arguement fails when you put into the equation, Taylor has proven he hits very hard by knocking down two of the greatest chins around right now, Ward is unproven in his power punching @ such a level so any arguements reguarding Ward being able to knock down Froch or Pavlik is PURE speculation with absolutely no basis or proof whereas Taylors power can be measured as he's actually knocked down the two said fighters. I ask you once again, who has Ward knocked down?

So it comes down to this : Taylor a proven TOP level power puncher vs Ward a top level prospect who hasn't proven **** yet in reguards to power punching. I'm going with Taylor, to go with Ward would be the equivalent of saying a fighter with 0 fights can hit as hard as Taylor, he just hasn't had the chance to prove it yet - a strawmans arguement and one commonly used by nut-huggers (from my experience with them).



Their is, you're just too dumb to comprehend it.





I wouldn't PMS if you wasn't an absolute ****ing buffoon who bases all his arguements on pure speculation which hold absolutely no credit when looking at things objectively. I can see Ward out-pointing Froch but an early TKO? based on what? Exactly.




Depends how you define special, Ward is a very good fighter though.

Btw what's this "r u Frochs brothar or smth mental izzuez" **** about? I'm just baffled by how you think Ward would TKO Froch early and your arguement for this is - he hits as hard as Taylor? ......


I'm done in here man you're ****ing ****** or bat**** insane. Think whatever you want, Ward hits harder than Taylor? Sure. I hit harder than Taylor aswell, just haven't had the chance to prove it.

yeah, you explained why I hated in the EXACT same way I could call you a hater.

everything you are saying is YOUR opinion and nothing more. but you present it as fact and anyone else who says otherwise is just *insert random insult here*.

Nothing froch has accomplished or ward has accomplished can suggest froch is better. you can only go by their fighting styles and ablities period. froch beat taylor, not ward. taylor knocked down froch and pavlik but ward has never fought either fighter so you can't compare the power in that sense.

the problem is, your argument is weak. you are trying to stretch it and you realize how ridiculous you are being and are just getting mad and frustrated at yourself.

and also you have to realize man, I'm not the reason your life is ****ed up. I feel for you man, I truly do. I can feel that you really hate yourself. its ok. you are just misdirecting that hate which won't solve anything.