OLD 80s WW VS NEW 00s WW

[AKATheMack]

Oops, sorry then.

No big deal, I dont blame you. Ive been reading comments like that all over this thread. At first I was laughin now Im startin to get sad. It would just hurt my pride if someone thought I wa that ignorant about boxing.

[krispy kreme]

COTTO VS DURAN- Duran has too much fire and tenacity to be stopped at Welter by Miguel... (prime vs prime) Cotto will give it all he has but he'll find that Roberto just won't stop and he will win by UD (in a 12rounder) or 13th round stoppage by old standards.

SUGAR MOSLEY VS SUGAR RAY LEONARD- I actually think a prime Shane gives Leonard all he can handle. Mosley is quick and a lot stronger than most people give him credit for. Ray wouldn't be able to hurt Shane and since there wouldn't be much difference speed wise I think Shane takes this one. Where Thomas Hearns fell short Shane would shine. 11th round stoppage for the second sugar Mosley.

P DUB VS HITMAN HEARNS- Hitman was very accurate and difficult to fight. Paul's height might make it look close at first until Thomas finds the range and catches Williams with his devastating right cross at the beginging of the 8th. Win by KO for the Original Hitman Hearns.

MAYWEATHER VS WHITAKER- Chess match with the master defensive fighter only leads to a check mate Unanimous Decision by Sweet Pea.

Okay if you are serious: I don't see how Mosley beats or even stops Leonard. Leonard would give to much movement and could easily keep Mosley at bay with his jab. Shane would want to fight to much and Leonard is too smart for him. Hearns was beating Leonard because of his boxing ability and height & reach advantage, Shane doesn't have those advantages or skills. With that said, I think Mosley could fight competitively, but Leonard UD's him.

[Silencers]

Some people really forget how good, how fast, how powerful, how smart and how adaptable Leonard was at his best.

[AKATheMack]

COTTO VS DURAN- Duran has too much fire and tenacity to be stopped at Welter by Miguel... (prime vs prime) Cotto will give it all he has but he'll find that Roberto just won't stop and he will win by UD (in a 12rounder) or 13th round stoppage by old standards.

SUGAR MOSLEY VS SUGAR RAY LEONARD- I actually think a prime Shane gives Leonard all he can handle. Mosley is quick and a lot stronger than most people give him credit for. Ray wouldn't be able to hurt Shane and since there wouldn't be much difference speed wise I think Shane takes this one. Where Thomas Hearns fell short Shane would shine. 11th round stoppage for the second sugar Mosley.

P DUB VS HITMAN HEARNS- Hitman was very accurate and difficult to fight. Paul's height might make it look close at first until Thomas finds the range and catches Williams with his devastating right cross at the beginging of the 8th. Win by KO for the Original Hitman Hearns.

MAYWEATHER VS WHITAKER- Chess match with the master defensive fighter only leads to a check mate Unanimous Decision by Sweet Pea.

At 147 Mosley is too much of a one punch fighter to beat SRL. If Mosley had brought his fighting style at lower weights with him I mightve agreed. SRL steals every round(even tho hes probably winning anyway) with 13 punch combos at the end of the round.

[FistoftheDallasStar]

Okay if you are serious: I don't see how Mosley beats or even stops Leonard. Leonard would give to much movement and could easily keep Mosley at bay with his jab. Shane would want to fight to much and Leonard is too smart for him. Hearns was beating Leonard because of his boxing ability and height & reach advantage, Shane doesn't have those advantages or skills. With that said, I think Mosley could fight competitively, but Leonard UD's him.

Leonard was great, I'm not taking anything away from him but in my opinion Ray never faced anyone that came close to his own speed. The closest he got was Terry Norris. Shane has the speed to cut off the ring and the timing to catch Ray coming in. Ray would get frustrated with not being able to hurt Shane. Ray loved coming in and throwing flashy combos and getting out, IMO he couldn't do that with Shane because he is quick enough to land his own and throw Leonards game plan off. It would be a great fight to see for sure but this fight would be a loss for Ray Leonard.

[krispy kreme]

Leonard was great, I'm not taking anything away from him but in my opinion Ray never faced anyone that came close to his own speed. The closest he got was Terry Norris. Shane has the speed to cut off the ring and the timing to catch Ray coming in. Ray would get frustrated with not being able to hurt Shane. Ray loved coming in and throwing flashy combos and getting out, IMO he couldn't do that with Shane because he is quick enough to land his own and throw Leonards game plan off. It would be a great fight to see for sure but this fight would be a loss for Ray Leonard.

Leonard didn't seem too frustrated not being able to hurt Hagler or Duran the second time. Shane's speed would be a big factor, but I don't think his hands at welterweight are quicker than Leonard's. As a poster had mentioned, Leonard was highly adaptable, Shane is not.

[FistoftheDallasStar]

At 147 Mosley is too much of a one punch fighter to beat SRL. If Mosley had brought his fighting style at lower weights with him I mightve agreed. SRL steals every round(even tho hes probably winning anyway) with 13 punch combos at the end of the round.

Ray was great but if he had trouble with an aggressive Duran the first time around.. Sugar Shane's speed > Duran's IMO. He can give Ray some fits. He couldn't just come in and out whenever he wanted .. ala the second Duran fight. Shane is smart enough to time him coming in and when they exchange Shane could land his share of blows and throw off Leonard. Leonard could land his own as well but to say he is gonna cruise to a UD .. nah I don't see it happening.

[FistoftheDallasStar]

Leonard didn't seem too frustrated not being able to hurt Hagler or Duran the second time. Shane's speed would be a big factor, but I don't think his hands at welterweight are quicker than Leonard's. As a poster had mentioned, Leonard was highly adaptable, Shane is not.

I agree with the adaptability point in your argument. Thats why I think if they rematched Sugar Ray Leonard would win it by UD. But I think the first time around he will somewhat confuse Ray with his combo of strenght and speed.

[krispy kreme]

I agree with the adaptability point in your argument. Thats why I think if they rematched Sugar Ray Leonard would win it by UD. But I think the first time around he will somewhat confuse Ray with his combo of strenght and speed.

I still disagree with Shane beating him, but good to hear a different opinion, bud.

[Khalid X]

COTTO VS DURAN- Duran has too much fire and tenacity to be stopped at Welter by Miguel... (prime vs prime) Cotto will give it all he has but he'll find that Roberto just won't stop and he will win by UD (in a 12rounder) or 13th round stoppage by old standards.

SUGAR MOSLEY VS SUGAR RAY LEONARD- I actually think a prime Shane gives Leonard all he can handle. Mosley is quick and a lot stronger than most people give him credit for. Ray wouldn't be able to hurt Shane and since there wouldn't be much difference speed wise I think Shane takes this one. Where Thomas Hearns fell short Shane would shine. 11th round stoppage for the second sugar Mosley.

P DUB VS HITMAN HEARNS- Hitman was very accurate and difficult to fight. Paul's height might make it look close at first until Thomas finds the range and catches Williams with his devastating right cross at the beginging of the 8th. Win by KO for the Original Hitman Hearns.

MAYWEATHER VS WHITAKER- Chess match with the master defensive fighter only leads to a check mate Unanimous Decision by Sweet Pea.

I do agree that Shane's speed is on par with Leonards. I'm not gonna argue that. But go back and watch the Forest and Winky fights, fights where Shane was in his prime and at his best. Shane leads with hooks and is open up the middle all day. The jab used by Winky, and especially Forest, neutralized Mosley's speed because right before shane was about to start up...both of those guys fired quick jabs, and that completley disrupted Shane from starting up with his combinations. If Vernon and Winky's jab did that, imagine what Leonard (who has one of the best jabs the division has ever seen) does.

Also Shane does have the power to knock out Leonard, but with Leonards side to side movement, Shane would need an effective jab to close the gap, come in and set up his money shots(which are the hooks to the body/head and right hand). Shane has never had that and I would be surprised if he was able to set up any of his punches the whole fight. The more I think about it the more I think this **** would look like B-hop vs Pavlik, where one boxers timing is completely disrupted and completely out-boxed.