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  • talip bin osman
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    #11
    Originally posted by wmute
    and it would also be a close fight, unlike Duran-Cotto
    wmute mi amigo!

    who do u think wins this? whos the better medium range/ inside fighter?

    palomino-cotto that is...

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    • chilost
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      #12
      Originally posted by wmute
      oh really? As exemplified by wichh fight? What about his defense being 10x cotto's? What about cotto's chin?

      Your pick is a fanboy pick

      not a fanboy pick homie. I not a blind nuthugger that thinks cotto can beat king kong blind fold'd wih one arm tided behind is bac, like some round here that think that of their fav.

      Watch the leonard-duran fights & you'll see duran didnt like body shots.

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      • wmute
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        #13
        Originally posted by chilost
        not a fanboy pick homie. I not a blind nuthugger that thinks cotto can beat king kong blind fold'd wih one arm tided behind is bac, like some round here that think that of their fav.

        Watch the leonard-duran fights & you'll see duran didnt like body shots.
        Sorry, but... I don't see how anyone likes body shots. The Leonard fight does not show that Duran had kinks in his armour when it came to body shots.

        By your very logic, I guess we should come to the conclusion -from the Margarito fight- that the one who could not take the other bodywork it would be Cotto.

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        • chilost
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          #14
          Originally posted by wmute
          sorry, but... I don't see how anyone likes body shots. The leonard fight does not show that duran had kinks in his armour when it came to body shots.

          By your very logic, i guess we should come to the conclusion -from the margarito fight- that the one who could not take the other bodywork it would be cotto.


          i dont see anyone taking gettin hit wit load gloves for too long.

          Anuone would quit under those conditions. Anyone.

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          • wmute
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            #15
            Originally posted by chilost
            i dont see anyone taking gettin hit wit load gloves for too long.

            Anuone would quit under those conditions. Anyone.
            Never said anything about quitting, why you bring that up? Do you think Cotto is a quitter? I certainly don't.

            There is no evidence that the gloves were loaded in that fight. Get over it.

            Cotto was open for uppercuts all through his career. His stamina was not great through all of his career. What happened in the Margarito fighting was not surprising. What was surprising is that Margarito could take those shots (in fact I think he was quite a bit ruined by Cotto).

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            • wmute
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              #16
              Originally posted by talip bin osman
              wmute mi amigo!

              who do u think wins this? whos the better medium range/ inside fighter?

              palomino-cotto that is...
              I wanna say Cotto, I have doubts on that if the fight goes into the championship rounds.

              Cotto definitely the better midrange fighter.

              Palomino a bit better inside fighter IMO.

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              • F l i c k e r
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                #17
                Originally posted by chilost
                WHAT ARE YOUR TAKE ON THESE FIGHTS BETWEEN OLD & NEW WWs?


                COTTO VS DURAN

                SUGAR MOSLEY VS SUGAR RAY LEONARD

                P DUB VS HITMAN HEARNS

                MAYWEATHER VS WHITAKER

                Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I was hoping this would never happen

                Cotto beats Duran. I see Cotto's body shots getting to him. It may be a war but Cotto doesn't faulter when someone doesn't swarm/barrage him with a multitude of punches. So, I think Cotto would get the better of Duran in the late rounds. A war no doubt though.

                Mosley-Leonard p4p I think Mosley would win. He has something that Leonard didn't have... power. Leonard has speed and evasiveness but Mosley in his prime was the same exact way. I see it comming down to Mosley's power breaking down the famed SRL. Leonard was great but threw punches in bunches to hurt people. Where as Mosley has enough power to get you down with 3-4 punches. Getting a decision is fine but in the fight one would see Leonard getting hurt.

                Thomas Hearns vs Paul Williams. That would be the fight of the decade. This fight would be a bigger war than Cotto-Duran. I guarantee it! Two dudes who throw punches forever, have enough reach to stand anywhere and ****, solid chins. This fight would be incredible. I honestly cant say how it would go. I have seen Hearns gas out before where as I haven't seen Williams gas out before. Yet, I have seen Williams mental lapse and havent seen Hearns mental lapse. I dont know, a Draw.

                Mayweather-Whitaker would probably kill fans. People would boo and fall asleep in this fight but it would be the technical boxing fan's wet dream. Whitaker cant be hit for anything and Mayweather is never hit by jabs. Because Pernell throws so many jabs, I see that being his downfall. He would throw more than landed, and none would hit flush. Where as Mayweather wont touch him if he goes aggressive but because of Whitaker's southpaw stance. He would get countered with the right hand after Whitaker's jab is rolled. Mayweather would win by a VERY controversial decision.


                Thats how I see those fights.

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                • chilost
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  never said anything about quitting, why you bring that up? Do you think cotto is a quitter? I certainly don't.

                  There is no evidence that the gloves were loaded in that fight. Get over it.

                  Cotto was open for uppercuts all through his career. His stamina was not great through all of his career. What happened in the margarito fighting was not surprising. What was surprising is that margarito could take those shots (in fact i think he was quite a bit ruined by cotto).

                  nah i dont think he's a quitter. I think he did the smart thing to avoid futher punishment.

                  Even thou there's no evidence, doesnt mean that he didnt have them load'd. Cotto has a history of gettin caught like he did in the margie fight, but never a history of cuttin like he did in that fight. Mosley, who i think hits harder the margie didnt bust cotto up & he caught cotto clean with those over hand rights clean.

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                  • Madvillain
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                    #19
                    Duran was a walking war. I like Cotto, and he's extremely talented. But Duran TKO's him very late into the fight.

                    Tommy Hearns murders Paul Williams. The Hitman catches him with the big right and it's goodnight Williams.

                    Sugar Ray Leonard was much faster than Mosley but didn't hit as hard. They are both known to brawl when necessary so I'd imagine it'd be Shane chasing Leonard most of the fight and Sugar Ray planting his feet and catching him at points. Shane lands some good shots, but Sugar Ray Leonard walks away with a UD victory. Something like 117-111 across the board sounds about right.

                    Whitaker vs Mayweather would be EXTREMELY close. Mayweather effectively waits on Sweet Pea, but gets caught a few times by Pernell's sneaky style. Floyd lands effective counter punches. This fight ends in a draw. Great fight if you're a fan of pure boxing.

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                    • wmute
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chilost
                      nah i dont think he's a quitter. I think he did the smart thing to avoid futher punishment.

                      Even thou there's no evidence, doesnt mean that he didnt have them load'd. Cotto has a history of gettin caught like he did in the margie fight, but never a history of cuttin like he did in that fight. Mosley, who i think hits harder the margie didnt bust cotto up & he caught cotto clean with those over hand rights clean.
                      sure, that does not mean Margarito had them loaded either...

                      I am pretty sure I have seen Cotto cut other times before. Am I wrong?

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