larrysmith, don't forget why Floyd quit in the first place.

[Guest]

Yup, there is the blood and both the wrap and Tony's brick have blood on them, why not do a DNA? To see if Cotto's blood is not on that brick? I never thought of that.

Um, Margarito had gloves over his wraps during the Cotto fight.
So how could Cotto's blood be there.

If anything it was Margarito's own blood.

[Google_It_Bitch]

This looked like a release of built up emotion from people calling floyd out on his choice of opponents, or lack thereof. The capper was Merchant roasting him on live tv right after the Baldy fight. I really think that got to Mayweather.

lol at the roasting :lmfao:

Floyd flew off the handle didn't he, Floyd had a nervouse break down because he was fighting bums and old men and we wanted to see him fight some young lions for once. Margarito and Cotto's name were always being thrown his way

[Google_It_Bitch]

Um, Margarito had gloves over his wraps during the Cotto fight.
So how could Cotto's blood be there.

If anything it was Margarito's own blood.

They took the gloves off and tony and cotto hugged tony before Cotto went to the hospital where else did that blood come from if not from Cotto? Tony was not bleeding so it had to be Cottos blood from that hug they gave each other.

[deanrw]

Um, Margarito had gloves over his wraps during the Cotto fight.
So how could Cotto's blood be there.

If anything it was Margarito's own blood.

Margarito was showered with Cotto's blood in their fight. All it would take is for him to wipe himself to then transfer it to his wraps or hug cotto

Like I said it is pure speculation, but it does point some real evidence that Tony used them in the Cotto fight. We are guaranteed pretty much that he used them before the Shane fight.

[FistoftheDallasStar]

In the Mosley fight, Tony already had one glove on. The wraps had already pass the inspection. Evangelista says it was his fault that he dropped the ball and that he sent one of his flunkies to go watch the wrapping. It's not as though Capetillo was making an annoucement when he was sneaking the bricks in you know. Like I said, Tony had both hands wrapped and one glove already on when ****m Richardson asked to feel the ungloved wrapped hand and he said these are very hard can you unwrap them, after arguing they were forced to unvail and whala brick one and then they said let us see the other and Tony began to complain and saying the other glove does not have a brick like that but when the glove came off and the wraps unvailed whala, whe had brick number two and both bricks had blood on them. Why did the bricks have blood on them? Where they using used kotex with blood on them? No they found bricks that Tony had been using on other people and one of them had to be cotto because damn that boy was bleeding. Capice?

It's scary to think Mosley was that close to being cheated on. Not to say it would have been an automatic loss for Shane but it would have made beating Margarito that much tougher. Who knows what might have happened and how it would have effected the division as it stands now.

[Dorian]

Until they come out and say `We now have 100% proof that Margarito cheated against Miguel Cotto and we now change the result of the bout from a Win to a NC`No contest`` or Margarito comes clean and admits it, It will always be questionable.

[Guest]

lol at the roasting :lmfao:

Floyd flew off the handle didn't he, Floyd had a nervouse break down because he was fighting bums and old men and we wanted to see him fight some young lions for once. Margarito and Cotto's name were always being thrown his way

Margarito was showered with Cotto's blood in their fight. All it would take is for him to wipe himself to then transfer it to his wraps or hug cotto

Like I said it is pure speculation, but it does point some real evidence that Tony used them in the Cotto fight. We are guaranteed pretty much that he used them before the Shane fight.

It is. And the thing is, I doubt they keep old wraps. They are in a landfill somewhere at this point so we will never truly know.

I feel Margarito got what he deserved in the end, and Cotto is champ and has got a great fight coming up.

I don't think Cotto is a quitter, that's a pretty unfair assessment of him people are making.
Floyd was a quitter but never in a fight. Just his retirement made him a quitter....

[sandyvahra]

The fans booing him may have helped.

But here's the thing I always think. Floyd couldn't help Baldomir ****** ass.
And he knew Baldy had a great chin.

They wanted him to go for the kill but who does that against Baldy?

Baldy was the lineal champ in a round robin division back then. That title changed hands 3x in the space of a year or so.

Merchant has been on Floyd's ass since the Bruseles fight. I swear before he was pretty high on him.

Fair enough personally I don't knock Floyd for not going for the kill vs. Baldy, if his hand was hurt his hand was hurt. The fans booed but its expected when you pay to see a fight & you get a sparring session. I don't care who you are but any athlete that gets booed in his home city & has fans leaving early has got to hurt.

Merchant has definitly been on Floyds case for awhile, but in all honestly I cant blame him entirely. Merchant's a guy who's been around forever, witnessed all the greats of the past. I don't think he like's the way floyd handles himself, i dont think he like his attitude as most don't, but above all I think he hates the fact that Floyd hasn't fought the best out there which as a fan of the sport is fair. 140 and up Floyd's resume is weak. Sure Baldy was the lineal title holder if that's his justification, but he waited to sign and fight Baldy after Gatti/Baldy, why? Had Gatti won would he rematch Gatti? Lineal belt holder was Baldy, but nothing more than a modern day cinderella man. 140 - the man was tszyu, 147 - lineal was baldy, but marg was top ranked for about 4 years & calling floyd out like no tomorrow. 154 the man was winky who vacated & went up to 160 cuz he couldnt find a fight. Floyd even called winky out & then wanted the bigger piece of the pie knowing winky wouldn't take it.

That would irk anyone who's witnessed the greats of yesteryear who fought the best, and risked defeat. That dared to be great. Floyd is not one of them.

I've said from day 1 Floyd is a money fighter, not a legacy fighter. Don't say you'll fight them all when you don't. Your not helping urself, ur hurting urself.

[Dorian]

I saw someone post here a while back. The showed a picture of Margarito with his gloves removed after the Cotto fight. Wiping himself he got Blood in the corner of his wraps. The pictures of the insertions that were removed before the Shane fight had blood in the corner of them.

It is pure speculation, but it does point evidence that he was wearing them in the Cotto fight. Perhaps Cotto's team were just not su****ious by nature like Hopkins trainer was. Actually even Nasim missed the first hand wrap of margarito and he noticed it when they were doing Margarito's second wrap.

Should have done some DNA`s on it.

Never seen this shot before.....

[FistoftheDallasStar]

Until they come out and say `We now have 100% proof that Margarito cheated against Miguel Cotto and we now change the result of the bout from a Win to a NC`No contest`` or Margarito comes clean and admits it, It will always be questionable.

I never was a fan of Margarito, I always liked Cotto(even before he was `famous`), but idk...

He won't admit it for sure but I honestly believe it is very close to being done. Cotto's loss being cleared up, that is. We probably have to wait till Margo's suspension is up and they put him on trial to see if he can box professionally again. I'm sure they will investigate his previous bouts as well..