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  • Shattered Jaw
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    #101
    Originally posted by FistoftheDallasStar
    It was proved in the Cotto fight because the wraps were similar to the original wrapping in the Mosley fight. It was in an article here on boxing scene. I don't know about the Paul Williams fight. Paul was handling himself well against Margo and smothering his agression with his size and speed so it never came into play.
    Paul was hurt badly in the 11th. Around the time the plaster would have been rock hard.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Red_Juice
      Anyone that thinks Margarito had not tried to cheat before is delusional. I was a massive Margarito fan after being caught trying to cheat (whether it was him or his trainer, or both), any previous victories should be called into question. I mean obviously this doesn't explain his incredible chin but I have no idea why he would cheat this once in a fight where Mosely was mere fodder to propel Margarito to superstar status.
      Mosley has a granite chin though. I would think the idea would be to slow him down and make him think twice about throwing hard shots.

      And my guess is they didn't wanna blow a chance for a rematch so they cheated.

      It's not like Mosley was Cintron or someone. Mosley was a guy that warred with the best and has barely been very hurt in any fight.

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      • FistoftheDallasStar
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        #103
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        How come Cotto's team didn't find anything wrong?
        You got to say that Mosley's team was better prepared and was looking out for the illegal wraps. Cotto's team pretty much messed up on that one. As a fighter you believe your trainers are doing the best they can for you. If they overlook anything it endangers their fighter.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Red_Juice
          Anyone that thinks Margarito had not tried to cheat before is delusional. I was a massive Margarito fan after being caught trying to cheat (whether it was him or his trainer, or both), any previous victories should be called into question. I mean obviously this doesn't explain his incredible chin but I have no idea why he would cheat this once in a fight where Mosely was mere fodder to propel Margarito to superstar status.
          Ok, then that means he cheated against Paul Williams also, How come Williams didn't take knee's and got blown out by the bricks like everyone else, and like Cotto.

          Cotto is ten times the fighter Williams is(according to the Boxingscene fans)

          What happened? see what I mean..

          whatever, It's a endless debate and like I said before, only a rematch can settle this...

          Cotto fan but not biased.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Red_Juice
            Paul was hurt badly in the 11th. Around the time the plaster would have been rock hard.
            Good point. I forgot about that.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Dorian
              Yes, they removed his wraps before the MOSLEY fight.

              How come they didn't say anything right after/before the Cotto fight about him cheating? the wraps were fine for that fight.

              there are may "if's and But's" in this situation but either way, a rematch is the only way this can be settled, but it won't change the fact that he lost.

              PS: I can see Cotto stopping him in the rematch, easily.
              In the Mosley fight, Tony already had one glove on. The wraps had already pass the inspection. Evangelista says it was his fault that he dropped the ball and that he sent one of his flunkies to go watch the wrapping. It's not as though Capetillo was making an annoucement when he was sneaking the bricks in you know. Like I said, Tony had both hands wrapped and one glove already on when ****m Richardson asked to feel the ungloved wrapped hand and he said these are very hard can you unwrap them, after arguing they were forced to unvail and whala brick one and then they said let us see the other and Tony began to complain and saying the other glove does not have a brick like that but when the glove came off and the wraps unvailed whala, whe had brick number two and both bricks had blood on them. Why did the bricks have blood on them? Where they using used kotex with blood on them? No they found bricks that Tony had been using on other people and one of them had to be cotto because damn that boy was bleeding. Capice?

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                #107
                Originally posted by Dorian
                Yes, they removed his wraps before the MOSLEY fight.

                How come they didn't say anything right after/before the Cotto fight about him cheating? the wraps were fine for that fight.

                there are may "if's and But's" in this situation but either way, a rematch is the only way this can be settled, but it won't change the fact that he lost.
                I saw someone post here a while back. The showed a picture of Margarito with his gloves removed after the Cotto fight. Wiping himself he got Blood in the corner of his wraps. The pictures of the insertions that were removed before the Shane fight had blood in the corner of them.

                It is pure speculation, but it does point evidence that he was wearing them in the Cotto fight. Perhaps Cotto's team were just not su****ious by nature like Hopkins trainer was. Actually even Nasim missed the first hand wrap of margarito and he noticed it when they were doing Margarito's second wrap.



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                  #108
                  This looked like a release of built up emotion from people calling floyd out on his choice of opponents, or lack thereof. The capper was Merchant roasting him on live tv right after the Baldy fight. I really think that got to Mayweather.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by sandyvahra
                    This looked like a release of built up emotion from people calling floyd out on his choice of opponents, or lack thereof. The capper was Merchant roasting him on live tv right after the Baldy fight. I really think that got to Mayweather.

                    The fans booing him may have helped.

                    But here's the thing I always think. Floyd couldn't help Baldomir ****** ass.
                    And he knew Baldy had a great chin.

                    They wanted him to go for the kill but who does that against Baldy?

                    Baldy was the lineal champ in a round robin division back then. That title changed hands 3x in the space of a year or so.

                    Merchant has been on Floyd's ass since the Bruseles fight. I swear before he was pretty high on him.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      I saw someone post here a while back. The showed a picture of Margarito with his gloves removed after the Cotto fight. Wiping himself he got Blood in the corner of his wraps. The pictures of the insertions that were removed before the Shane fight had blood in the corner of them.

                      It is pure speculation, but it does point evidence that he was wearing them in the Cotto fight. Perhaps Cotto's team were just not su****ious by nature like Hopkins trainer was. Actually even Nasim missed the first hand wrap of margarito and he noticed it when they were doing Margarito's second wrap.



                      Yup, there is the blood and both the wrap and Tony's brick have blood on them, why not do a DNA? To see if Cotto's blood is not on that brick? I never thought of that.

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