Why is Barrera and Morales considered shot when they faced Pacquiao?

[sweetpea87]

i laugh when people say pac just beat shot fighters. he fought GREAT fighters close to their prime. the only fight where one can say pac's opponent was shot was the third morales fight and the dlh fight. and they weren't even that bad at that time!

he faced the best available. even if people around him says he got no chance.

DLH is a zombie? hardly. barrera was shot? no. you all should appreciate this unique fighter. instead of being blind fans of the likes of floyd, who is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

I think they were only shot after he destroyed both of them.

[- JCHING -]

The first Barrera fight is Pac's best win, as he was in or close to his prime. The first fight with a prime Morales, Pac lost. The next two fights with Morales was when Erik was on the deline and had lost to pretty average fighters before he fought Pac again. The Barrera rematch shouldn't have happened as Barrera was pretty far past it after being in a few more wars and just generally getting old. The ODLH win is pretty self explanitory for anyone who knows boxing. The Hatton win is good, but Hatton defensively didn't exist and lost his head.

[boojee]

because of the way Pac pummeled them. even hatton looked like a B fighter against Pac.

[wizard king]

Pacs victory over Barrera is his best win other then that pac has not shown anything but proven he is a one dimensional fighter who is still learning the fundementals of boxing. Pac will get exposed against cotto if that happens.

[boojee]

Pac's lost to Erik was FLUKE.

the much smaller Pac coming up in weight was not totally focused and took the fight lightly, fighting with one eye and bleeding badly because of the headbutt.

he damaged morales none the less

[wizzies]

So how do you geniuses explain that Morales just lost to Raheem? Was it because of Pac's right hand?

Zahir is a boxer, your way underestimating his abilities. Morales didnt show any sign of decline of skill that night. It wasnt his night and Zahir exploited his weakness. Theres no excuses on that lost, he won over Pac, he should have carried the momentum while fighting Zahir but that wasnt enough. Zahir just outboxed him and has better strategy and execution.

Although the 3rd fight was evident of a decline, but still it was a great win for Pac.

[Da Hammer]

Only fights that he fought shot fighters were Barrera 2 and Morales 3 two fights that should have never happened!!! Well at the very least Barrera 2 was a waste he was shot and came into the fight looking not to get knocked out which ******. At least my boy Morales went down swinging!

[Pullcounter]

lol Probably becaue they never made noise in their respective divisions afterwards, it was their time to go..

Look, if it wasn't Manny to upset Barrera, it more then likely would have been Guzman or Soto...

Only difference is that Humberto Soto and Juan Guzman wouldn't have gotten off as easy as Paq did. They would probably have to fight some seriously hitters. Paq just coasted by the lamest fighters they could pitch him up against...**** is a sham lol..

ACTUALLY I think Mab outboxes Soto and MAB barely loses to guzman who will run most of the fight.

who at 140 would be favored to beat Pac??? nuff said.

[winac]

It's eniterely Manny's fault that they say that. He chose to fight the loser of the Barrera- Morales III fight. No one could have argued that Barrera was shot if Manny had fought him coming off one of the best wins of his career, Morales III, but instead he chose Morales. But after that mistake he makes another by not choosing to fight Barrera before Marquez and rather than ending Barrera's 4 year winning streak he let's Marquez take that accomplishment and once again fights the loser of that fight. Also despite fighting the loser of Morales Barrera III he then goes on to lose to that Morales. Then once again he chooses to fight the loser of Morales-Rahman rather than looking for another opponent which could have been Barrera, before Marquez fought him. That was a Morales that had lost two out of his last three. I'm taking not saying these are not good wins but if Manny and his fans want to claim these fighters were near or close to their prime he should have fought them when they were still winning and there would be no doubt. I guess the same can be said for De La Hoya, eventhough I personally think that it is a great win all things considered, as he lost his last big fight to Mayweather. Hatton also lost his last big fight but I feel beating Malignaggi the number 2 at 140 showed he still had it, and the manner in which Manny won was devastating. Lastlly David Diaz was coming off a MD in a 10 rounder against Ramon Montano.

[We want Floyd]

Basically, what all you PAC haters are saying is that, PAC wouldn't have a chance against a prime Erika, lmao. Its the other way around.

Seein how PAC has developed and combined with his athletic ability, Erika wouldn't be able to stop that PAC train, no f**kin' way!