Victor Ortiz the new Fernando Vargas?????

[El Jesus]

but Ortiz comes from a troubled past too. best to err on the side of caution and not rush Ortiz too fast

the difference is that Ortiz is now in the company of guys like oscar and hopkins etc that can mentor him alot better than vargas handlers. ortiz troubled past is coupled with the fact that unlike vargas, hes not a ****in moron.

think about the life vargas could have tracked if he aimed to be something different than some fake azz badass. Vargas tried to appeal to that crowd to great success but in the end his skills never matched his mouth.

[KennyWeldon]

on looks maybe, but in personalities Vargas was an ignorant mudaf-ka who alwawys talked trash only to get ktfo by his opponents, Ortiz is more likable and humble he is no gangster wannabe like Vargas

[Cadillac Man]

I don't see why people see the comparison between Ortiz and Vargas. Vargas was loud and onery, Ortiz is more patient and is carefull while talking to the media. Ortiz is from the midwest, Vargas was a socal guy, Vargas was a big jr middleweight, Ortiz is a JR welter. I see more of a comparision between Olympian Estrada and Vargas both SOCAL Mex-Americans, both around the 160lb limit, both fight with a passion and reckless abandon. Ortiz doesn't fight like that he's more patient and not as fiery in the ring. I like Ortiz but there isn't much comparision between him an Vargas.

[supRa]

a friend was the 1 that told me that he's trainer/managment is the same people that managed vargas too....
lol he said hopfully they dont rush ortiz like they did to vargas

[Iceta]

When's Victor's next fight? He'd be the perfect guy to throw on the JMM-Mayweather undercard. I know Nate Campell might be too big of a step-up for him at this time but I think the perfect fight for Ortiz right now would be Chop-Chop Corley. I know people wrote him off after he went on that bad slump but he got robbed on ESPN Friday Night Fights and I heard he won a fight here recently.

[AntonTheMeh]

ortiz to me is a bigger juanma lopez.

[Down4TheCount]

if they want to give him a step up in class of opponent but yet keep him away from the best of the division they should match him up with one of the following fighters , or a few before he takes the next step :

malinaggi
lazcano
torres
hopkins
alvarado

[calihomie818661]

when is ortiz next fight hope its under the jmm maywheather fight

[Silencers]

He could equal Vargas if he keeps doing what he's doing, keep improving and notching impressive wins, and I can see him surpassing Vargas just because of his discipline outside of the ring, he should have a good, lengthy career if he stays disciplined.

[Pullcounter]

the difference is that Ortiz is now in the company of guys like oscar and hopkins etc that can mentor him alot better than vargas handlers. ortiz troubled past is coupled with the fact that unlike vargas, hes not a ****in moron.

think about the life vargas could have tracked if he aimed to be something different than some fake azz badass. Vargas tried to appeal to that crowd to great success but in the end his skills never matched his mouth.

true, but I think its best not to rush ortiz. I wanna see the kid succeed and not get ruined by rushing him into fights he's not ready for.