Victor Ortiz the new Fernando Vargas?????

[No Ceiling]

i dont see any similarities...

[Toney Loc]

Vargas had a lot of talent and wins over Winky, Quartey, and Marquez, with the potential to be even better, but Ortiz has a lot of skills too and will have a better career than Vargas. Bring on Campbell!

I completely disagree. Ortiz' team should keep him the **** away from Bradley and Campbell.

[El Jesus]

I used to think so but Ortiz is not Vargas. They are not throwing him to wolves like they did Vargas.

there was a reason why they did that. Vargas had a very troubled past, and he seemed to always be into some trouble. During the amatuers that was the biggest talk during the olympics, how would he manage if he could just stay out of trouble. Vargas was rushed by main events because of this, it was either wait for him to **** up and go to jail or throw him to trinidad and get rich quickly.

[Pullcounter]

Is there anyone else that sees the similarities between the two? Similar body types, although Victor is at 140 and I don't quite see him having as many weight problems in the future as Fernando. They both have a fan friendly, carefree personality. That star quality that makes people like them. They also have similar fan friendly, fighting styles and come from the same area. Time will tell how Victor Ortiz' career will play out but I see a lot of similarities between these two.

as long as they don't throw him to the wolves he should be GBP new super-star

[PittyPat]

I completely disagree. Ortiz' team should keep him the **** away from Bradley and Campbell.

How about Holt? I know he can ****, but would he be as high-risk as Campbell?

And I think he'd fare pretty well against Bradley. Would probably lose a UD, but still. Has his chin even been tested yet?

[Heru]

I completely disagree. Ortiz' team should keep him the **** away from Bradley and Campbell.

He's be ready to beat them now, but it would be in a very tough fight. If they take one, maybe two more fights after Maidana, both of them would get dispatched of.

[Pullcounter]

there was a reason why they did that. Vargas had a very troubled past, and he seemed to always be into some trouble. During the amatuers that was the biggest talk during the olympics, how would he manage if he could just stay out of trouble. Vargas was rushed by main events because of this, it was either wait for him to **** up and go to jail or throw him to trinidad and get rich quickly.

but Ortiz comes from a troubled past too. best to err on the side of caution and not rush Ortiz too fast

[GTL]

Ortiz will be greater that Vargas..
Ortiz is a future star and has a great personality..
The personality that you want your kids to look up to and want to be like.. Hes a great kid, and i think golden boy is moving him slowly but surely so he doesnt make the same mistakes that vargas did..

[JmH Reborn]

I see the similarities as well

Time will tell if he becomes as successful as Vargas

[blind4]

i would like to see Ortiz agaisnt Urango