Ring magazine on Mayweather fans angry about Pac being fighter of 2000's.............

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #41
    Read the whole article you nuthugger. Stop nitpicking and try and expand your myopic view to the big picture. We are talking about a decade. Floyd had good comp and fought exciting fights for 2000-2. Everything else is a joke, or at least can be picked apart. Read what he said about who and how many HOF's he fought.

    He likes Manny more as an exciting fighter and a guy who takes on and seeks out challenges. Simple as that, and almost everyone feels the same way.

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    • YuNgMaYwEaThEr
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      #42
      Shane Mosley beat Ricardo Mayorga in 12....DLH in 6.....so that means DLh is better, even tho Mosley beat him twice....right???

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        #43
        Originally posted by sandyvahra
        This villain talk is garbage. Wasn't Duran a villain in his lightweight hayday? Didn't he insult people & get under their skin? Did he not win fighter of the decade? **** outta here for people who think that. If Floyd fought the best he'd have a better case plain & simple. If your basing it on undefeated record why not Joe Calzaghe be fighter of the decade???

        Bottom line, there's a lot more to being fighter of the decade than just skills & record. If we can't measure one's greatness vs. the best competition out there, there is no telling how great that person is. Unfortunately Floyds left too many questions.

        Pac has left no questions.

        Simple.

        / of thread!

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          #44
          *** Da HAtERZ!! FLoYD DA BESS!!!

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          • p4p-champ
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            #45
            Originally posted by them_apples
            Name one fighter Pacquiao has faced that he has never been able to land punches on. He always can. If you run it just gives him room to attack, if you attack him he's shown some vulnerability in his career early on against ATG fw's like Morales, but he's improved that aspect as well, Ricky Hatton, and to a lesser extent David Diaz. Although I think Morales was a lot better than those 2 guys.
            Name one fighter Pacquiao has faced with defense like Mayweathers

            Maybe its just me but i still see a lot of the same flaws from back in the Morales days. In the second round of the May 2nd bout; Hatton started landing some shots that pressured him. When he gets hit or pressured he starts to brawl. Starts to throw punches in bunches and this is when he leaves himself open for an effective counter puncher.

            To this day, a Marquez rematch would still give him plenty of problems and not because I'm biased. I actually like him because he is entertaining to watch but he still does the same things. Granted, he has improved somewhat as he does seem to feint a little more but its not a whole lot.

            If a counter puncher of Marquez's ability can give Manny that much trouble, what can Mayweather do with his defense and counter punching ability?

            We'll see what story they write up if this fight ever takes place...and I'm hoping it does. The whole damn world want to see it happen.
            Last edited by p4p-champ; 05-14-2009, 12:35 PM.

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            • cortdawg25
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              #46
              Originally posted by them_apples
              Why is Pacquiao always considered to be skill-less compared to Mayweather. He's not as smooth but surely people can see his incredible timing and the fact that he's extremely hard to land flush on due to his constant weaving like a mongoose.

              You can't become the p4p best fighter in the world by just being fast and hitting hard.

              Mayweather may have better defensive skill, but Pacquiaos offensive capabilities surpass Mayweathers by a fair margin, he has more experience attacking opponents, his timing is better when coming forward as is his feinting.

              His counter punching is getting better as well, maybe not quite as good yet since it's generally with only one punch (his right hook) but it's an effective one.

              Name one fighter Pacquiao has faced that he has never been able to land punches on. He always can. If you run it just gives him room to attack, if you attack him he's shown some vulnerability in his career early on against ATG fw's like Morales, but he's improved that aspect as well, Ricky Hatton, and to a lesser extent David Diaz. Although I think Morales was a lot better than those 2 guys.
              pacman is not skilless....he got some skills, but he not that hard to hit at all. and his timing is not better. it'seasy to hit a target when the all the fighters you have fought have similar styles. he has never fought a true slick boxer. Some may say he even avoided those kind of fighters.

              pacman is good, but he is not better. Even his offensive prowess is limited to hooks, leads, and jabs to the face. every punch in boxing Floyd can throw: hooks, leads, jabs to face and body. he even throws lead hooks with both hands. Many don't do that.

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              • YuNgMaYwEaThEr
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                #47
                Manny Pacquiao:

                2001-Draw against Agapito Sanchez

                2004-Draw against JMM(most people that JMM won that fight)

                2005-Lost to Erik Morales

                2008-SD win over JMM(most people thought JMM won that fight)

                wow he did have a great decade...

                Floyd Mayweather:

                2001-KO Win vs Diego Corrales

                2002-UD win twice vs Jose Luis Castillo

                2005-KO win over Arturo Gatti

                2006-UD win over Zab Judah

                2007-SD win over DLH

                2008-KO win over Ricky Hatton

                Now whos stats for the decade look better to you guys???

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                • skullduggery
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mangler
                  People just like and respect Pac more than Mr boat buyer in general, thus find it easier to give him props.
                  cosign mangler..... thats the same way i feel, which is y until manny loses, he'l be p4p on everones list

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                  • skullduggery
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by YuNgMaYwEaThEr
                    Manny Pacquiao:

                    2001-Draw against Agapito Sanchez

                    2004-Draw against JMM(most people that JMM won that fight)

                    2005-Lost to Erik Morales

                    2008-SD win over JMM(most people thought JMM won that fight)

                    wow he did have a great decade...

                    Floyd Mayweather:

                    2001-KO Win vs Diego Corrales

                    2002-UD win twice vs Jose Luis Castillo

                    2005-KO win over Arturo Gatti

                    2006-UD win over Zab Judah

                    2007-SD win over DLH

                    2008-KO win over Ricky Hatton

                    Now whos stats for the decade look better to you guys???
                    lol.... nice

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                    • cortdawg25
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      Read the whole article you nuthugger. Stop nitpicking and try and expand your myopic view to the big picture. We are talking about a decade. Floyd had good comp and fought exciting fights for 2000-2. Everything else is a joke, or at least can be picked apart. Read what he said about who and how many HOF's he fought.

                      He likes Manny more as an exciting fighter and a guy who takes on and seeks out challenges. Simple as that, and almost everyone feels the same way.
                      but are those challenges for pacman, challenges for Floyd. In a lb for lb sense, skillset vs skillset none of thse Mexican HOF (with the same style) would pose any threat or challenge to Floyd.

                      It took manny 3 fights with Morales, 2 fights with MAB, and 2 fights with JMM. And til this day, 2 fights later, he still hasn't prove that he is better than JMM.

                      That right there makes him fighter of the decade. Floyd has been remotely close to losing to none of these champs. also that is another thing to look at Floyd as fought more champions than them and alwasy look great.

                      The guy in the article said there is no room for perfection in boxing.....this is simply a haters comment. the author is basically saying "floyd is just too good to be fighter of the decade!"

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