Manny Pacquiao To Retire After October Bout?

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  • fcastro1
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    #161
    pac will beat mayweather then become an all time great then a congressman

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    • FLY TY
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      #162
      Originally posted by lcheezy
      cotto has never called for a fight with mayweather. its always been " i don't need mayweather" cotto says. its really been the boxing community that wants the fight. until cotto calls him out like marquez did then the fight will never happen. no one is ducking at all.
      that's what beats me.....i don't understand how mayweather "ducked" him, even though there were never any discussions, and cotto has never expressed an interest in the fight.

      add to that cotto isn't a great draw, mayweather took two tough fights for a lot more money......doesn't equal a duck in my book.

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      • bobbyb363
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        #163
        Originally posted by Sin City
        So when Mayweather retires in his prime with the public and the boxing community demanding he fight Cotto, or the other welters in a division that's been the best there's been in years it's cool and not ducking.. but when Manny does it, it is? What hypocrites!
        Maybe because Manny does not claim to be the best of all time. Maybe because Manny, if he does retire, would have so called "ducked" one guy...your boy Floyd. On the other hand Floyd really wants the smaller Pac but really act like Shane, Cotto and Williams don't exist.
        Manny has nothing to lose by fighting the 3 mentioned above because he is not expected to win in this division. Floyd on th other hand knows he has something to lose and it could realistically happen and he "won't" fight those guys.
        Floyd believes that because Manny has been annointed the P4P best; even though he could not beat Cotto, Shane or Williams, that he can swoop down and beat the smaller Pacman and put himself on top again without beating the "REAL" guys in that division

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          #164
          Originally posted by Samadafish
          I agree 210% & I also belive the only boxer not ducking any1 is Cotto
          who is Paul williams ducking? this guy is going up and down the scales to get a fight.The only fighter Shane is ducking is williams because Williams is Vernon Forrest all over with less power but way more punch output.

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          • bobbyb363
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            #165
            Originally posted by WESS
            I like Pac but if his last fights are Cotto and/or Mayweather he will retire on a "L".

            Mayweather VS Cotto/Mosley and Pac VS JMM III should be the fights taking place.....
            agree 100%...apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

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            • bobbyb363
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              #166
              Originally posted by lcheezy
              cotto has never called for a fight with mayweather. its always been " i don't need mayweather" cotto says. its really been the boxing community that wants the fight. until cotto calls him out like marquez did then the fight will never happen. no one is ducking at all.
              Both Vernon Forrest called out Mayweather, Winky Wright called out Mayweather years ago. Vernon stated "I will shut him down on some simple S..." If that is not calling him out plus after winning a fight he stated he wanted Mayweather. If that is not asking for him, I don't know what is.

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              • alembic
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                #167
                Originally posted by sandyvahra
                Mayweather concedes the bigger share to pac or the fight doesn't happen. Manny deserves the bigger piece. He's lb 4 lb#1, he's fought the best, he's more popular now than floyd has ever been worldwide. His career PPV #s are close to Floyds. He's fought on PPV more than floyd. He is undoubtedly the face of boxing right now. Pac does not need Floyd as much as Floyd needs Pac. The same way Mayweather retired and wouldnt fight the top dogs Floyd needs this fight and if he wants it he better be ready to give up the lions share. If Floyd doesnt take it he'll be forced to fight Cotto or Mosley, either that or retire again. This is Arum's way of sticking it back to Floyd. Everyone wants to fight Manny right now. He's brought the sport more exposure than we've seen in some time. He's more exciting, and going forward his style/personality attracts more fans to the sport period.

                As much as I want to see this fight, I see it as the perfect way to force floyd into fights we've been wanting to see for a long time & prove his greatness vs. the best out there.
                This is spot on. Everybody knows Floyd ended his retirement only for the big money that a fight with Manny would generate. Well, at least Bob Arum knows. And he's going to leverage Manny's current popularity to swing a very favorable deal, especially since it seems Team Pacquiao isn't too keen on making this fight happen.

                And I wouldn't blame them for being realistic. Floyd is just naturally too big, too quick and too skilled for Manny to inflict any damage (of course I didn't think Manny could KO Hatton either!).

                Fighting Cotto would be a bigger mismatch although more exciting for however long it lasts.

                But I'd love to see Pac-JMM III at 135 or 140 because this would be a very competitive, exciting fight that could settle countless debates. I also like the idea of rewarding fighters like JMM who take on tough fights.

                Most importantly, if Manny retired without fighting Floyd, Money would have to man-up and fight top WWs to cement his claim to be #1 P4P. But I'm not sure that would happen. In fact, with the Pacquiao fight off the table, I suspect Arum would count on Floyd to leave boxing again... without the massive payday. This would be the step-to-it-***** message from Top Rank. Vindictive, but not unreasonable to speculate.

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                • RuThLessZ
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                  #168
                  floyd is awwesume

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                  • baracuda
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by RuThLessZ
                    floyd is awwesume
                    floyd's a dork!he cries in public to gain sympathy!

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                    • Pretty_Hitman
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                      #170
                      This is because Mayweather will be looking to regain his P4P Crown around this time once he has OWNED JMM.

                      Political career.....................

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