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  • DE100
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    #11
    With every statement Pac's team makes lately they seem less and less confident that Pac can take Mayweather. Its excuses after excuses.

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    • Bobby Shaw
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      #12
      Originally posted by sandyvahra
      Lol who cares, freeze out mayweather like he's been freezing out top competition in his last 3 divisions. Pac don't need him. Boxing may need the fight, but Pac doesn't. Mayweather's never gonna reach Pac's mainstream appeal, he'll never have his country literally stop to watch him fight, he won't have his face on a stamp, WTF does pac need him for? He's got a ton of great fights out there, and more fan friendly fights. Let mayweather go prove himself vs. a top welter & maybe then entertain him & his track shoes.
      Floyd doesnt need his country.The fact is you will still buy the fight whether you like it or not.Floyd is playing the perfect game.He knows he will never have that type of appeal even if he was to give all his money to the poor.That type of appeal is something people are born with and part of it goes to the race as well .It has nothing to do with performance.

      Not many black fighters have that appeal.Look at Shane Mosley,he fights well,trains hard,says the right things but who cares about SHane?Only hard core fans.If Floyd came from another country maybe he would have the appeal.The USA has too many heroes e.g with basketball,football and music.The only reason Oscar had so much power is because he was of Mexican origin and being American at the same time and the olympics helped.Looking at the demographics you know Latinos watch boxing,black people have moved on to other sports.In terms of the base blacks will always have to content with being a bad boy if they want people to come and watch their fights.

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #13
        Originally posted by Google_It_Bitch
        That is what I am talkin' about. Give that boy a taste of his own medicine
        :clap:
        It might backfire:

        If Floyd beats JMM decisively, especially by KO (which has never happened to him before despite Pac fighting him twice, so it might be unlikely), then I will go out on a limb and say Most Boxing Fans will want to see Pac vs. Floyd fight and if it doesn't happen, people will know the reason: Team Pacquiao. That's why Floyd is fighting JMM. What is a shame is that it seems (if we go by Roach), that Pac wants the fight but it is Roach/Arum that don't at this point.

        Personally, I don't see why not. If there was ever a time to beat Floyd it would be now. This isn't the same fighter that was fighting at 130-140 or even with his first fight at 147 against Mitchell. He was on a slow decline both Mentally and Physically heading into his Retirement Check against Oscar....then Hatton. Add that to the long layoff and his reasons for coming back may be financial and not for fun and legacy...that might be worth the risk given you have Pacquiao.


        Now they'll wait to see how he does against JMM and if they see he has slipped more, they'll probably take the fight. Most people will never look at the slip because he hasn't lost yet. "O" tends to mean you are still at your best in the casual mindset.


        What this could do is force Floyd to fight Mosley next and if he fights Mosley, Shane could take something out of him, thus allowing Pac's odds to go up.

        They could also hope Shane beats him or if JMM can beat him first.

        However, I would suggest staying away from Cotto because Cotto could take something away from Pac unless they can get Cotto to come down to 142/3 since he will be a weakened version of himself.

        All this would lead to the fight being next year which means Floyd will be 33 by that point.

        It's about being smart.



        Now, if Floyd has managed to gather himself back to his Old Ways, bringing back the version that was fighting from 130-140, with this coming out of retirement actually being a resurrection...then Pac will be in trouble. How likely is that? Not likely. We continue to change as a person with time and what Floyd was then is not going to be him now. His objective would be to be the best he can be at this point in time. Physically, he is not going to get better and has shown a decline from his under 147 days. But Mentally, he has a chance of lighting that fire up again like he was when he was fighting below WW.
        Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-13-2009, 06:12 AM.

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        • baracuda
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          #14
          floyd should compete in the marathons!

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          • pbftxrs316
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            #15
            team pac is scared of floyd. arm has always been scared to put his fighters aainst floyd...margarito also..tony went up to floyd with soem bull**** fight proposal and arum rode that wave...arum knows his fighters cannot beat floyd...he knows...floyd will crush pac...

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            • Maestro USA
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              #16
              Team Pacquiao love damaged goods only.

              They can't beat elite boxers.

              Mayweather is the King, and Manny is just a Duckman.

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              • baracuda
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                #17
                Originally posted by Maestro USA
                Team Pacquiao love damaged goods only.

                They can't beat elite boxers.

                Mayweather is the King, and Manny is just a Duckman.
                don't confuse your hero to my boy packy....pac=p4p king floyd=cherrypicKING maestro=male booty bandit

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                • Lady Fan
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Maestro USA
                  Team Pacquiao love damaged goods only.
                  They can't beat elite boxers.
                  Mayweather is the King, and Manny is just a Duckman.
                  No, The Pac/PBF fight will happen soon and you will see the pure mastery of the Pacman's fighting skills as he clearly defeats a "shocked" Mayweather who I think will run around the ring in avoidance of the Pacman's ferocity. Floyd will eventually be caught and with a thunderous "Power Punch" as you saw with Ricky Hatton, he will go down very hard. I see this happening. JAT



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                  • Hitman Hodgson
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                    #19
                    I agree with him about Mosley being the most dangerous opponent for him, he would beat Pac bad, really bad.

                    I hope Floyd wins though, Roach talks too much.

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                    • SkilledB
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                      #20
                      roach came out and said he dosnt want pac fighting floyd, and now he runs his mouth?

                      this is class right here

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