Roach: "Because Floyd Jr. is a runner, Manny will only decision him..."

[SkillspayBills]

i never said it wasn't relevant. i said the one to look after is the OFFICIAL one. yeah, fighters drain themselves to have advantage in weight, but hey, EVERY FIGHTER IS ALLOWED TO DO THAT. if you have too much muscles, then suit yourself because you'll fight at a class where guys will be huge compared to you. that isn't clottey's, williams's, lopez, caballero's fault. if you make the weight, you're allowed to fight in there. if the opponent is smaller, then too bad

so then, how do you measure a fighter's ideal weight? imo, by observing how well they carry their abilities to the next weight class. marquez CLEARLY didn't grow stronger to 135. he looked like a slower version of his 130 body, and struggled in both fights. have you seen floyd or pac struggling? nope, because they carried their abilities almost intact to a higher class

marquez didn't do it at 135. he won't do it at 143-144. if you think that he will, then you're a bit more clueless than me

You just contradicted YOUR OWN ARGUMENT. You just said you should look at OFFICIAL weight then said Pac and Flyod don't struggle because they can CARRY THEIR WEIGHT. Pac weighs in at 148 ON FIGHT NIGHT so if he moves up from 135 to 140 he can still CARRY THE WEIGHT. If you looked only at OFFICIAL WIEGHT he should be a "slower version of his 130 body" like you said of Marquez right? WRONG that's because official wieght is not the only damn marker of a fighter's ability to move up and face off against the best.

P.S.I don't care what weight the fight was at, Floyd is better than Marq at pretty much every aspect of boxing, he would tax that ass either way. Don't worry though I've got a few clues for you, I will make sure you won't be clueless much longer.

[fdotorres]

You just contradicted YOUR OWN ARGUMENT. You just said you should look at OFFICIAL weight then said Pac and Flyod don't struggle because they can CARRY THEIR WEIGHT. Pac weighs in at 148 ON FIGHT NIGHT so if he moves up from 135 to 140 he can still CARRY THE WEIGHT. If you looked only at OFFICIAL WIEGHT he should be a "slower version of his 130 body" like you said of Marquez right? WRONG that's because official wieght is not the only damn marker of a fighter's ability to move up and face off against the best.

P.S.I don't care what weight the fight was at, Floyd is better than Marq at pretty much every aspect of boxing, he would tax that ass either way. Don't worry though I've got a few clues for you, I will make sure you won't be clueless much longer.

again saying things i've never even suggested? is this the only way you can argue?

i never even thought about carrying weight. i talked about carrying ABILITIES. the ONLY thing that marquez carried successfully to 135 was his damn brain. that's how he won even while being slower

pac proved that he's even faster AND stronger now, so it's pretty safe to say that he didn't carry anything, he IMPROVED while moving up (unless you think david diaz is better than hatton)

btw, i noticed you're just arguing for the fun of it and will just keep doing the same crap no matter what i say. needing to rephrase my argument is enough prove of it, so post whatever you want. enjoy having the last word on this and again, feel free to distort any part of my post

[Xcusemymood]

isn't beating quintana for a vacant title more challenging than beating baldomir for the lineal title?

I think so. But at the same time I'd rather fight for 8 milli and the Lineal.

[letsgobrady]

proof....complete bs!

proof of what?that manny became #1 p4p in most peoples eyes after floyd retired or proof that some people had either calzaghe or marquez as their #1 p4p

[fdotorres]

I think so. But at the same time I'd rather fight for 8 milli and the Lineal.

i'm not saying it to diss floyd. i'm saying it to his "fans" that discredit a win for a vacant title against an undefeated good boxer, but praise a win for a lineal title against a bum

[andrew14]

manny's problem on pbf!

yes thats will be boring fight but i hope it will happen.

12 rounds of pbf running. and pac can get a fight in the ring. its a marathon!

another thing manny should fine a way to make pbf fight him in his way. thats a

big big problem for manny, but its boxing manny should fight pbf no matter

what.

[RodBarker]

again i'll ask: since when is fight night weigh in the relevant one? send the petition to the commissions hurry

Its all that really is relative in a boxing forum where people are talking about who is bigger who is better etc etc , and you think what they weigh when they actually fight dont mean anything , do you realize how ****** that is ?

[fdotorres]

Its all that really is relative in a boxing forum where people are talking about who is bigger who is better etc etc , and you think what they weigh when they actually fight dont mean anything , do you realize how ****** that is ?

of course i see it

now, do you see how ****** it is to change what i said? i said that the official weigh in is the most important one. i never said that the unofficial one (fight night) isn't important at all

you see? everybody needs a little help from their friends