Floyd Mayweather: 'Marquez ain't nothing but a tune-up'

[jungie]

so pbf makes his fight a business type boxing.......?

[Al Haymon]

The other dude to whom you responded is wrong in believing that Floyd broke the terms ofthe contract, but your post isnt exactly the truth.

Floyd didn't adhere to the terms of the original contract - he had it reworked to avoid paying a fine to the NSAC.

Kiser stated that Floyd didn't violate the contract that he was given - but that was the amended version, which he received at the very last minute (and past deadline, though that's Kiser's fault for not doing his job). The amended version called for a welterweight fight.

Had the original version with the 144 lb. weight limit been the only contract on file, Floyd would've been obligated to pay the agreed upon amount for being 2 lb. over, and also a mandatory fine to the NSAC.

An amended contract is a contract. Contracts are amended ALL THE TIME.

Marquez and mayweather both signed, so it was a fully executed, valid contract. Once Marquez approved the *********, the 'original contract" became moot.

[Al Haymon]

so pbf makes his fight a business type boxing.......?

huh?




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[MindBat]

An amended contract is a contract. Contracts are amended ALL THE TIME.

Marquez and mayweather both signed, so it was a fully executed, valid contract. Once Marquez approved the *********, the 'original contract" became moot.

EXACTLY.

Plus, all Team Marquez had to do was not sign the amended contract and call the fight off until Floyd complied, or simply refuse to fight.

But of course, who's Marquez to decline the biggest paycheck of his career?

[JakeNDaBox]

An amended contract is a contract. Contracts are amended ALL THE TIME.

Marquez and mayweather both signed, so it was a fully executed, valid contract. Once Marquez approved the *********, the 'original contract" became moot.

Boxing contracts are usually amended for bull**** like, what color gloves they get to wear (though no longer an issue in Vegas since they let fighters wear whatever they want)... or Fighter A is granted an extra hotel room... Fighter B gets extra ringside tickets, etc.

The weight at which they fight is rarely amended, so please don't act like it's commonplace. The only time it's amended is in fact when one fighter struggles to make weight.

I agree, the original contract became moot once the amended version was filed. Nor do I pity Marquez for what went down - in fact, I've publicly chastisted Marquez and Golden Boy for selling out the way they did.

But the fact is that up until the 11th hour, Keith Kizer and the NSAC were led to believe that the fight was going to take place at 144 lb and he was quite vocal in his displeasure over the lack of professionalism exuded by Mayweather. Again, though, it's Kizer's own fault for not stepping in sooner, instead putting the money they stood to gain before the very rules he's supposed to enforce.

That's all I was trying to clear up, since your posts paint a different picture.

[Al Haymon]

That's all I was trying to clear up, since your posts paint a different picture.

I have gone on tne record previously and said that Floyd "gamed the system". Was it ethical? Maybe, maybe not. Was it illegal? Absolutely not.

So, what i took umbrage to was the assertion by that earlier poster who said that Floyd violated his contract.

No, Floyd did not violate the contract.

What Floyd did was IN NO WAY comparable to the cheating that Margarito and Mosley have done. And it isn't like Floyd showed up to the weigh-in overweight and sueprised everyone and put the fight in jeopardy (like Corrales, Guzman, Castillo, Campbell, etc).

Floyd told the Marquez team on Wednesday. Wednesday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941

[sandyvahra]

I have gone on tne record previously and said that Floyd "gamed the system". Was it ethical? Maybe, maybe not. Was it illegal? Absolutely not.

So, what i took umbrage to was the assertion by that earlier poster who said that Floyd violated his contract.

No, Floyd did not violate the contract.

What Floyd did was IN NO WAY comparable to the cheating that Margarito and Mosley have done. And it isn't like Floyd showed up to the weigh-in overweight and sueprised everyone and put the fight in jeopardy (like Corrales, Guzman, Castillo, Campbell, etc).

Floyd told the Marquez team on Wednesday. Wednesday.


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4485941

He never intended to make the weight. He waited until the 11th hour to make the change. He went & restructured the penalty with the marquez camp. For a guy who was already getting flack for fighting an older slower lightweight, he chose to come in even bigger than originally agreed to or that the public was made aware of. It was a ****** move either way you slice it. It wasn't neccessary & opened him up for more criticism.

[JBell11]

You don't understand how contracts work.
Pac/Oscar had the same clause in their contract. And both sides acknowledge that a weight clause was in there. If you come in over XXX lbs, then you pay YYY dollars.
Floyd exercised that clause in the contract. If you don't want me to exercise a clause, don't put it in the contract. Business Law 101.
When I built my house, the builder included XXX square feet of hardwood flooring. I wanted more, so I paid YYY dollars for more.
When you go buy a bucket of KFC Grilled chicken, you get four pieces of white meat. If you want more white meat, you have to pay an additional $1.99.
Same thing. Keith Kiser said that Floyd didn't violate the contract. He would be in trouble with the NSAC if he did.
No sympathy for the boo-hoo'ing.

Hi Al,
I do understand how contracts work, I also understand that the clause was in the contract and that he excerised it. In your "Pac/Oscar" example, Oscar had the "balls" if you will, to challenge himself and his opponent to make weight. I'm sure Oscar could've excersise the clause (he can afford it). But, he chose not to...there is an amount of integrity that Oscar developed by doing that. We all know he paid the price, but noone can tell Oscar that he didn't honor the contractual obligation set forth. He did his part. I did not mention anything about being in trouble with the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I was merely discussing the integrity of an athlete. That is, giving another athlete a legitamate chance.

Now to your other example, you may want to buy XXX additional square feet of hardwood flooring...and so you paid YYY dollars more are you going to reach over and take more wood than you actually need? I'll dumb it down. Are you going to come in overweight on a naturally smaller dude??? Again Al, and friends I'm just talking about integrity...the contract may have a clause to let you slip. But in all fairness of the sport, and in any competition the person will always lack credibility.

Ok...not always lack credibility. But it still sucks.

[Al Haymon]

I was merely discussing the integrity of an athlete. That is, giving another athlete a legitamate chance.

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Floyd was always going to beat Marquez. So I understand your point. I truly do.

But I can't blame someone for (legally) exploiting the system and stacking the deck in his favor.

When Oscar fought FMJ, Oscar stacked everything in his favor.

[Al Haymon]

He never intended to make the weight. .

Absolutely agreed.

...and Marquez' promoters knew that, and were complicit.