Floyd Mayweather: 'Marquez ain't nothing but a tune-up'

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  • Al Haymon
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    #31
    Originally posted by Ravishing
    You didn't answer anything lol, you're dodging the question.

    Does Mayweather vs Mosley make more than Mayweather vs Marquez?

    Yes or No?
    In post #24, you asked me what money has to do with it.

    I then responded that the arena was full of Mexicans. Let me be more clear, if possible: Marquez brought the Latino fanbase to the gate, and to the promotion.

    That is what Marquez brought to the table that Shane does not.


    I now ask YOU: if I am mistaken or wrong about this, please point me to the fight that Shane participated in where he was able to bring a large fanbase to the arena (or cable box).

    Thanks again v3.0.

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    • Al Haymon
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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum
      how many fights at welterweight will marquez win in his career?
      At what weight did Marquez ask for the fight? At what weight did Marquez weigh in?

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      • MANGLER
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        #33
        This **** is old. Just hope he fights SSM and Pac-Cotto winner next yr.

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        • JBell11
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          #34
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Yep. It says that Golden Boy doesn't know how to negotiate on behalf of their fighter.

          Contracts....there for a reason.
          What to be broken??? Is that really an excuse? The contract stipulated a certain weight limit, and if it was such an issue; Floyd's team should have contested that particular clause. Why wait until fight week to "do something about it." Is anyone in Floyd's staff capable of reading his contracts??? I think so. I guess contracts don't really matter. He was even quoted saying he had no intention, nor the ability to make weight.

          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Marquez asked for the fight, and got the fight almost exactly how he asked for it. I have a TV set.

          True Story.
          The fight would have been a "fair" fight on paper. My entire point being; Floyd would have had some integrity if JMM got exactly what was stipulated in the contract. Floyd could have legitimately, contractually walk the walk.
          Please this is only an opinion.

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          • RL_GMA
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            #35
            Originally posted by Al Haymon
            In post #24, you asked me what money has to do with it.

            I then responded that the arena was full of Mexicans. Let me be more clear, if possible: Marquez brought the Latino fanbase to the gate, and to the promotion.

            That is what Marquez brought to the table that Shane does not.


            I now ask YOU: if I am mistaken or wrong about this, please point me to the fight that Shane participated in where he was able to bring a large fanbase to the arena (or cable box).

            Thanks again v3.0.
            LOL I truly don't think you're a Floyd Mayweather fan, honestly.

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            • Al Haymon
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              #36
              Originally posted by JBell11
              What to be broken??? Is that really an excuse? The contract stipulated a certain weight limit, and if it was such an issue; Floyd's team should have contested that particular clause. Why wait until fight week to "do something about it." Is anyone in Floyd's staff capable of reading his contracts??? I think so. I guess contracts don't really matter. He was even quoted saying he had no intention, nor the ability to make weight.

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              You don't understand how contracts work.

              Pac/Oscar had the same clause in their contract. And both sides acknowledge that a weight clause was in there. If you come in over XXX lbs, then you pay YYY dollars.

              Floyd exercised that clause in the contract. If you don't want me to exercise a clause, don't put it in the contract. Business Law 101.

              When I built my house, the builder included XXX square feet of hardwood flooring. I wanted more, so I paid YYY dollars for more.

              When you go buy a bucket of KFC Grilled chicken, you get four pieces of white meat. If you want more white meat, you have to pay an additional $1.99.

              Same thing. Keith Kiser said that Floyd didn't violate the contract. He would be in trouble with the NSAC if he did.

              No sympathy for the boo-hoo'ing.

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              • Al Haymon
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                #37
                Originally posted by RL_GMA
                LOL I truly don't think you're a Floyd Mayweather fan, honestly.
                Fan, Schman.

                I call it as I see it. This is about money. I'll leave all the competitive bloodlust to you guys.

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                • daggum
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Al Haymon
                  At what weight did Marquez ask for the fight? At what weight did Marquez weigh in?
                  only insecure people answer questions with more questions. i asked you how many fights do you think marquez will win in his career at welterweight? you see the answer is zero which proves this fight was a total farce. fighting a small guy way above his best weight cause he asked for it? what kind of reasoning is that. lets hope juanma lopez doesn't ask for the fight at 143...........fingers crossed people!

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                  • Al Haymon
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    only insecure people answer questions with more questions.
                    Call it what you will.

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                    • JakeNDaBox
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Al Haymon
                      You don't understand how contracts work.

                      Pac/Oscar had the same clause in their contract. And both sides acknowledge that a weight clause was in there. If you come in over XXX lbs, then you pay YYY dollars.

                      Floyd exercised that clause in the contract. If you don't want me to exercise a clause, don't put it in the contract. Business Law 101.

                      When I built my house, the builder included XXX square feet of hardwood flooring. I wanted more, so I paid YYY dollars for more.

                      When you go buy a bucket of KFC Grilled chicken, you get four pieces of white meat. If you want more white meat, you have to pay an additional $1.99.

                      Same thing. Keith Kiser said that Floyd didn't violate the contract. He would be in trouble with the NSAC if he did.

                      No sympathy for the boo-hoo'ing.
                      The other dude to whom you responded is wrong in believing that Floyd broke the terms ofthe contract, but your post isnt exactly the truth.

                      Floyd didn't adhere to the terms of the original contract - he had it reworked to avoid paying a fine to the NSAC.

                      Kiser stated that Floyd didn't violate the contract that he was given - but that was the amended version, which he received at the very last minute (and past deadline, though that's Kiser's fault for not doing his job). The amended version called for a welterweight fight.

                      Had the original version with the 144 lb. weight limit been the only contract on file, Floyd would've been obligated to pay the agreed upon amount for being 2 lb. over, and also a mandatory fine to the NSAC.

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