Why did Floyd fought Hatton at 147?

[nujabes77]

Ah, missed the point again. Reread the entire post carefully. Not hard to figure out.

Oh, and will Hatton show up at 140 by fight-time?
And what would Floyd show up at?


And why was Hatton "not ready" for Floyd despite Floyd's calls?

hattons official weight is at 140, 45 of his 47 fight were all jww. the weight he gains by fight time does not matter. what matters is the official weight, not fight time weight

mayweather knew hatton would ballon up to the point where he gets sluggish at 147. and hatton did


and try to answer my questions first before you post yours, tx

[Burner]

hattons official weight is at 140, 45 of his 47 fight were all jww. the weight he gains by fight time does not matter. what matters is the official weight, not fight time weight

mayweather knew hatton would ballon up to the point where he gets sluggish at 147. and hatton did


and try to answer my questions first before you post yours, tx

Fight time weight doesnt matter???

Are you kidding....when Oscar was over 160 pounds aginst Floyd who was 148 that didnt matter?

When Berto and Clottey come in fight night at 170 pound aginst 150 pound guys...that doesnt matter?

[nujabes77]

He beat Oscar at 147 right?

Oscar is bigger then Marg..,Cotto and Shane

yes, it was at 147


the pacquiao camp and roach knew oscar couldn't fight a small speedy southpaw, cotto and shane does not share the same problem...


camp and roach said if they can't pursue a mayweather fight, they will probably officially move to 147 where the action is at. this is from the post interview of pac/hatton

[Benny Leonard]

hattons official weight is at 140, 45 of his 47 fight were all jww. the weight he gains by fight time does not matter. what matters is the official weight, not fight time weight

mayweather knew hatton would ballon up to the point where he gets sluggish at 147. and hatton did


and try to answer my questions first before you post yours, tx

So Pac should have no problem going back up to 147 since it is only 7 pounds where he can face Cotto and Shane, right?

After all, he fought there for Oscar. It's only 7 pounds.

Hatton showed up at his normal weight. Go back over the interviews before the fight and leading up to the weigh-in. Kerry Kayes discussed this. They weren't going to make the same mistake again.


And by the way, I posted the update for Gatti-Gamache in my weight division thread so somebody found that it did matter. Also look up the other article with the Doctor's advice (who is in boxing).

[nujabes77]

Fight time weight doesnt matter???

Are you kidding....when Oscar was over 160 pounds aginst Floyd who was 148 that didnt matter?

When Berto and Clottey come in fight night at 170 pound aginst 150 pound guys...that doesnt matter?

depends on your gameplan, you guys overrate weight much like it decides a fight. a fight is decided by skill and other tangibles, not only by weight

you come in lighter means you have more speed but you compromise your power and agility. you come heavier means that you will have more power and is more sturdy but you're more sluggish

[nujabes77]

Well, actually, I should make that CLEAR: It's FREDDIE ROACH and not Pac since I don't think Pac really cares where he fights and who he fights.

It's Roach who will get the advantages for him.

Although Pac goes along with it but he won't step on Roach's toes because Roach helped him get to where he is today. Good friendship.

Roach is just looking out for Pac so I do understand it.

And, I never said it wasn't smart because it is. Freddie is a smart guy.

tx for clearing that up

pacquiao would even fight a heavy weight and would have no problem about it...

[El Dominicano]

depends on your gameplan, you guys overrate weight much like it decides a fight. a fight is decided by skill and other tangibles, not only by weight

you come in lighter means you have more speed but you compromise your power and agility. you come heavier means that you will have more power and is more sturdy but you're more sluggish

hattons official weight is at 140, 45 of his 47 fight were all jww. the weight he gains by fight time does not matter. what matters is the official weight, not fight time weight

mayweather knew hatton would ballon up to the point where he gets sluggish at 147. and hatton did


and try to answer my questions first before you post yours, tx

Make up your mind

[Benny Leonard]

Thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230484&page=7

Joey Gamache's case against NYSAC on after 9-year wait
BY MITCH ABRAMSON
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Monday, December 22nd 2008, 9:10 PM



For a brief moment, Joey Gamache was flying through space.

When he finally crashed down in the ring at Madison Square Garden nearly nine years ago, his retirement and the kernels of a lawsuit would be hatched.

Three judges and a trio of attorneys later, Gamache will finally get his day in court.

On Monday, Judge Melvin Schweitzer of the New York Court of Claims produced a 26-page decision, sending the civil case to trial and beginning the process of resolving a matter that has been shrouded in controversy throughout this decade.

Gamache contends that Arturo Gatti, his opponent for his Feb.26, 2000, bout, was allowed to weigh in over the agreed-upon weight limit of 141 pounds and that Gatti was given an unfair advantage in the ring.

The night of the bout, Gatti reportedly weighed 160 pounds, according to HBO scales, while Gamache, who made weight the day before, checked in at 145 pounds.

The result was inevitable.

Gamache was nearly decapitated in the second round, retired from the sport on his way back to the dressing room and was reported to have sustained permanent brain damage.

Shortly thereafter, Gamache filed a lawsuit against the New York State Athletic Commission, alleging fraud, breach of contract and negligence at the Feb.25 weigh-in.

Two of the causes were thrown out, while the negligence cause of action withstood.

"We're extremely pleased that by making this decision the court is saying loud and clear that the commission can and will be held responsible when they conduct themselves in a negligent manner that results in injuries to the fighters," said Gamache's attorney, Keith Sullivan. "They had a duty that day that when Joey weighed in at 141 pounds, that his opponent also weighed in at the same weight. It's disgraceful."

No trial date has been set, nor has compensation been discussed, but Sullivan expects the case to begin in February or March.

Gamache, 42, lives in Manhattan and works as a boxing trainer.

A year after Gamache's alleged incident at the weigh-in, Beethaeven Scottland was killed because of injuries incurred in the ring against George Khalid Jones at the U.S.S. Intrepid.

Sullivan described the New York State Commission back then as "a festering ground of political patronage with guys who didn't have the knowledge or skills to help the fighters."

[Benny Leonard]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/11643791/

Boxer injured in 2000 fight sues Gatti

Gamache sustained brain damage, says opponent weighed too much in ring

NEW YORK - A former boxer who says he sustained permanent brain damage in a 2000 bout against Arturo Gatti is now suing, saying Gatti weighed too much for the fight.

Joey Gamache, 39, and his wife filed a lawsuit in federal court Feb. 21 alleging breach of contract over the Feb. 26, 2000 bout at Madison Square Garden. Gatti won the fight.

By contract, both fighters had to weigh 141 pounds by at least eight hours before the bout started, according to the suit filed by lawyer Keith Sullivan. Gatti made weight the day before the fight, but the suit said his weight was “falsely represented” then and that he was actually 160 pounds by the time he got into the ring the next day.

Gatti overwhelmed Gamache in the first round and the fight was stopped 20 seconds into Round Two, but Gamache was hospitalized for two days afterward, the suit said.

“As a result of the devastating punishment inflicted by the severely overweight defendant ... (Gamache) has sustained severe and permanent neurological damages and injuries, which caused him to end his career as a professional boxer,” according to the suit.

Gamache, who suffers from migraine headaches he attributes to the beating, now works as a boxing trainer at Gleason’s Gym in Brooklyn.

“Every day is a battle,” Sullivan said Thursday. “He has great difficulty getting past these migraine headaches and he takes a ****tail of medications to get through it.”


Gamache has a separate complaint pending before the state Court of Claims against the New York State Athletic Commission over the administration of the weigh-in, Sullivan said.

Donald Tremblay, spokesman for Bloomfield, N.J.-based Main Events, Gatti’s promoter, said the company had not been served with the complaint and wouldn’t comment on its claims.

A breach-of-contract suit filed by Gamache over the fight was voluntarily withdrawn by him in August 2004, with the endorsement of U.S. District Judge Laura Taylor Swain, according to Tremblay.

Tremblay said he didn’t know what Gatti’s weight was by the time the fight began.

“I don’t know how much weight he gained afterward. That was when Arturo was really working hard to make weight. How much he actually gained, I don’t know. He worked hard to get down and make the weight. After that, when you replenish with liquids you’re going to gain some weight back. Some guys gain more than others

[nujabes77]

So Pac should have no problem going back up to 147 since it is only 7 pounds where he can face Cotto and Shane, right?

After all, he fought there for Oscar. It's only 7 pounds.

Hatton showed up at his normal weight. Go back over the interviews before the fight and leading up to the weigh-in. Kerry Kayes discussed this. They weren't going to make the same mistake again.


And by the way, I posted the update for Gatti-Gamache in my weight division thread so somebody found that it did matter. Also look up the other article with the Doctor's advice (who is in boxing).

yes, i would like to see him fight cotto or mosley at 147. fighting them below that is useless since there is no title and cotto/mosley wouldn't be comfortable. manny should trry to crack a 147 title, if successful, it would do wonders to his legacy. people may this this match ups are absurd, but pacquiao is the kind of dude where you never know what to expect


dont really put so much emphasis on weight like you guys do, pac vs ww is the best challenge for him. anyone below ww is pretty much ****