Why did Floyd fought Hatton at 147?

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    #11
    Originally posted by 2501
    So then the same applies for JMM vs PBF @ 147? thats why he wanted JMM at 147lbs?
    Its been over a month and you still dont understand the concept taht it makes NO SENSE for Floyd to get down to 140 a weight he hasnt been at 5 years after a 2 year layoff in his IFRST fight.

    What sense does that make?

    For a HBO PPV date......of July 18th and July 11th that Floyd was given....

    Marquez was the ONLY opponent.

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      #12
      Originally posted by The 5* General
      Its been over a month and you still dont understand the concept taht it makes NO SENSE for Floyd to get down to 140 a weight he hasnt been at 5 years after a 2 year layoff in his IFRST fight.

      What sense does that make?

      For a HBO PPV date......of July 18th and July 11th that Floyd was given....

      Marquez was the ONLY opponent.
      Wait so what is it? Floyd is too small to fight WW's, Floyd is too big to fight at JR WW?

      You guys change you positions with every post.

      And Mosley wasnt available?

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        #13
        Originally posted by pacman777
        i dont think this is the case, making weight is not an issue to pbf. walk in the park for him

        at the time, hatton was the king at 140 and looked unstoppable. however at 147 he looked slugish and does not have the same aura like he does at jww (ie. collaza). floyd saw this as a weakness and use it to his advantage
        Correction: He looked sluggish in the WW division against Collazo because he weighed 158 pounds. Hatton's Team said it was a mistake trying to make Ricky a full blown WW like the rest of the WW that blow up in weight...so, they decided against this for Floyd and showed up at a healthy/working weight for Floyd at WW. Basically, what Hatton usually shows up at by fight-time for his JrWW fights. Of course, since he is still over 147 for his JrWW bouts, he had to still drain a bit then rehydrate but just not the amount he would have had it been at 140.

        Seriously, Floyd weighs the same as Pac come fight-time...but good try.


        For Floyd: Floyd was actually much better at 140 than he was at 147. From 130-140, he was overall better.

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          #14
          Originally posted by 2501
          So then the same applies for JMM vs PBF @ 147? thats why he wanted JMM at 147lbs?
          Its even worst because Marquez is lighter than Hatton. Therefore, an easier win for PBF.

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            #15
            Originally posted by 2501
            Wait so what is it? Floyd is too small to fight WW's, Floyd is too big to fight at JR WW?

            You guys change you positions with every post.

            And Mosley wasnt available?
            What are you talking about?

            I just said asked you what sense does it make to drop down to 140 pounds..a weight he hasnt been at in 5 years....in your FIRST fight back after a two year layoff?

            It makes ZERO sense.....

            And fighting Shane in your first fight back after a 2 year layoff makes less sense.

            How did that work for Winky...he got his ass beat...badly.

            Floyd relies on timing...speed...accuracy..reflexes and defense..things that go away over time..he needed a bout to sharpen his skills

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              #16
              floyds official weight division is at 144, hahaha


              i call it the 'maywelter weight' division

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                #17
                Originally posted by 2501
                So then the same applies for JMM vs PBF @ 147? thats why he wanted JMM at 147lbs?
                Say Floyd goes down to 140 for the division. He won't be 140 pounds come fight-time, like Pac and Hatton weren'' come fight-time. So, why bother?

                He is actually being honest about the situation. He says, look: I'm 146-149 come fight-time, that's where I will be. Why bother telling people it will be a 140 pound fight when it won't be.

                Hatton and Pac will say: Look, I know we are fighting in the JrWW/140 pound division, but what we have to do is take some pills to piss out the water in our body and then stick a needle in our arm to rehydrate ourselves up 10-20 pounds. So yes, even though we say we are 140 pounds, we really aren't come the actual fight.

                The funny thing is this: JMM moved up for Pac. If JMM were to fight Pac now, Pac would be 148 pounds come fight-time. Or even at 135/LW, Pac was 147 pounds...so that is the weight JMM would have to deal with..147+


                Now...who is 147+ that JMM is going to face next?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pacman777
                  floyds official weight division is at 144, hahaha


                  i call it the 'maywelter weight' division
                  can i call it gaywelter weight division 144? jmm vs floyd meet at 144 lbs "the battle of gay"

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    Say Floyd goes down to 140 for the division. He won't be 140 pounds come fight-time, like Pac and Hatton weren'' come fight-time. So, why bother?

                    He is actually being honest about the situation. He says, look: I'm 146-149 come fight-time, that's where I will be. Why bother telling people it will be a 140 pound fight when it won't be.

                    Hatton and Pac will say: Look, I know we are fighting in the JrWW/140 pound division, but what we have to do is take some pills to piss out the water in our body and then stick a needle in our arm to rehydrate ourselves up 10-20 pounds. So yes, even though we say we are 140 pounds, we really aren't come the actual fight.

                    The funny thing is this: JMM moved up for Pac. If JMM were to fight Pac now, Pac would be 148 pounds come fight-time. Or even at 134/LW, Pac was 147 pounds...so that is the weight JMM would have to deal with..147+


                    Now...who is 147+ that JMM is going to face next
                    ?
                    On that note thread closed.

                    Manny will weigh 148 or more vs. JMM @ 140.

                    Floyd will weigh 146-147 vs. JMM @ 144

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pacman777
                      floyds official weight division is at 144, hahaha


                      i call it the 'maywelter weight' division
                      So what would Pac's be when he wants to fight drain fighters at 142/3?

                      Vampire division?

                      Suck the blood out of fighters like Cotto and Shane by 4-5 pounds.

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