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  • mrpain81
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Buzz
    I'd love to see Shaun George fight Johnson, Tarver, Cloud, Mack or Shumenov. Shaun really doesn't care what style anyone is, he just wants to fight everyone.

    In terms of style matchups, from easiest to hardest for Shaun:

    1)Shumenov
    2)Johnson
    3)Cloud
    4)Tarver
    5)Dawson
    Yeah I didn't mean Johnson vs Tarver but Johnson vs Dawson, they just need to invest in the division like Showtime is doing with the super middleweights.

    It's a hell of a lot better then Middleweight that's for sure.

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    • The Buzz
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      #22
      Originally posted by ~Tunney
      Shumenov has sent letters to George and to Glen Johnson, asking them to fight him.
      He hasn't because I would have seen them.

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        #23
        The LHW division is dead.

        There are a bunch of C level fighters in there.

        Take Hopkins and Johnson away and you have nothing there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          #24
          Originally posted by ~Tunney
          Shumenov has sent letters to George and to Glen Johnson, asking them to fight him.
          Thats like you receiving a letter from some random dude in the world, why would you care what he says if you don't know the fuck he is???

          Originally posted by ~Tunney
          Shumenov isn't white you idiot!


          Well, he doesn't look black either.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Buzz
            He hasn't because I would have seen them.
            They probably thought it was fan mail.

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              #26
              Originally posted by mrpain81
              Yeah I didn't mean Johnson vs Tarver but Johnson vs Dawson, they just need to invest in the division like Showtime is doing with the super middleweights.

              It's a hell of a lot better then Middleweight that's for sure.
              Dawson won't rematch Johnson. The money isn't there to make the risk worth it and Gary Shaw has adopted Dawson as his new project. Dawson will fight the easiest fights available for the money. A dangerous fight like that probably won't happen.

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                #27
                More fighters will move up to 175 next year like Pascal did for a title shot. Theres not enough TV dates and belts, for all the names that are in SMW division right now.

                They should have mentioned Mack and George

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The_Bull
                  They probably thought it was fan mail.
                  That's a little absurd, Shumenov is a good fighter. I'm not the one who signs the contracts in Team George but I'm close to the operations and would have known if any contact had been established. That'd be a great fight for Shaun but I haven't seen any letters. If they really want the fight, Donna Duva-Brooks and Lou Dibella are not that hard to reach.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Buzz
                    He hasn't because I would have seen them.
                    Sorry, it wasn't George, it was Erdei, Johnson, Gonzalez, and Woods. Here's the article from ESB:

                    Beibut Shumenov Targets WBO Light-Heavyweight Champ Zsolt Erdei
                    by James Slater

                    - Much like Cuban hotshot and new WBA interim featherweight champion Yuriorkis Gamboa, Kazakhstan's unbeaten 25-year-old Beibut Shumenov is a fighter that is being moved, and wants to be moved, fast. Also like Gamboa, the talented light-heavyweight contender represented his country at the 2004 Olympic games (unfortunately he was unable to win a medal)..

                    A pro only since November of 2007, Las-Vegas-based Shumanov has advanced very quickly. Winning all 7 of his pro fights, all but two inside the distance, the 25-year-old has met some very good fighters. Wins, and commanding ones, at that, over Montel Griffin (WU12) and Epifanio Mendoza (WU10) have vaulted the prospect/contender into the top-ten of a couple of boxing organisations already. Set to face former IBF super-middleweight champion Alejandro Berrio in his native Kazakhstan on May 9th, Shumenov is hoping to land a fight with reigning WBO 175 pound champion Zsolt Erdei after that.

                    Speaking to NewsBlaze.com, Chingis Shumenov, Beibut's brother and co-promoter, spoke about the prospective fight with Hungary's unbeaten Erdei.

                    "We contacted Universum about Beibut fighting Erdei," Chingis said. "They promised to get back to us but never did. We're not looking past Berrio by any means, he's very dangerous, but we want a title shot against Erdei. Beibut has already beaten one world champion (in Griffin) and now he's fighting another former world champion, Berrio.

                    "We've challenged former world champions Clinton Woods, Glen Johnson, Julio Cesar Gonzalez, Byron Mitchell. None of them want to fight Beibut."

                    And who can really blame them? Shumenov is massively ambitious, he is willing, it seems, to fight anyone, and he is fast approaching his absolute peak - if he's not there already. Why would any of the former champs listed by his brother wish to risk losing to such a fighter when they could still have yet another shot at the big time? Still, as choosy as Shumenov claims some fighters have been, at least Berrio is taking the hotshot on. An impressive win over the 32-year-old Colombian, 28-5(27) might just get Beibut what he wants. But would Erdei have too much for him at present, as good as the unbeaten would-be star is?

                    Chingis says the lack of pro fights his brother has had should not go against him.

                    "Title contending opportunities should be about the quality, not the number, of opponents fought," Chingis argued. "Beibut's only had seven pro fights, true, but look at whom he's beaten. People forget that in 1978, Leon Spinks had only had seven pro fights when he beat the great Muhammad Ali for the world heavyweight title.

                    "Erdei has a title defence scheduled for August 22nd against a TBA. We'll be ready, willing and able for him."

                    Chingis also added that his brother is self promoted, therefore there will be no middle-men for Team-Erdei to have to deal with- "there's no excuse," Chingis said.

                    In the past, the long-reigning WBO light-heavyweight king with the 30-0(17) record has made the claim that he has been avoided and that no-one wants to fight him. Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic if he now chose to avoid a guy with just seven or eight pro fights to his name?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Buzz
                      Dawson won't rematch Johnson. The money isn't there to make the risk worth it and Gary Shaw has adopted Dawson as his new project. Dawson will fight the easiest fights available for the money. A dangerous fight like that probably won't happen.
                      Well it seemed tonight like HBO was pushing for that fight since they declared besides that fight there is nothing there, they need to make good fights for Dawson. I'm pretty sure Gary Shaw will try to keep fighting the Epifanio Mendoza's and Jesus Ruiz type fight but HBO will put pressure to make good fights. The boxing business has changed the last few years where we ain't getting all the bull**** mandatory/no-hopers that made boxing a little stale.

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