Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Possible, Without Haymon

[Benny Leonard]

it is a problem....Arum can't dictate who is on his team. This is business and all that personal stuff ain't welcome. Bob trying to make a pre-arranged excuse. But there is nothing he can do....ESPN already talking about this fight. The 2 Live Stews was talking about it the other day. This fight is already being demanded. It's nothing the Bobather can demand from Money May!

I understand your point but if that is what it takes for the fight, so be it. He can have everything written down from Haymon as well as keeping him on the phone while having his own lawyers present to make sure everything is Kosher. You see, he is still there but just not in person. It's saying F*** You except you can't see the finger.

He can also say if I can't have Haymon, this is what I want.

Hell, a good idea may to have negotiations on TV or record it.

[GameBullDawg]

who has pacman fought within the past 2 yrs and won convincingly that make him p4p #1? oh yeah, that's right all Floyd leftovers!

FORGET TWO YEARS MANG, Lets go back to the loss to Morales, most would be done it with that loss, but look what Manny did when he fought him again !!! Reminds me of Ali fighting Fraizer and was nearly KO'd , got real close to doing it , but Ali came back to win both matches, Ali was greater for it, Pac was greater for coming back and devastatingly whip my mang THE GREAT MORALES ! Manny whipped the GREAT MARCO B. Manny whipped the GREAT JMM ONCE and drew with him the first fight, then Manny went up in weight to slaughter Diaz,,,{admit easily Diaz not a great fighter},,,,,then he slaughered Oscar in a History making Fight, the Modern Henry ARMSTRONG !!!!!!!! Then he slaughtered Ricky Hatton, king of the lightwelters ,,,,,,,,,thats what he's done, can you tell me Mayweathers greatest fight over the past 4 years ????????

Go Ahead

[El Jesus]

I understand your point but if that is what it takes for the fight, so be it. He can have everything written down from Haymon as well as keeping him on the phone while having his own lawyers present to make sure everything is Kosher. You see, he is still there but just not in person. It's saying F*** You except you can't see the finger.

He can also say if I can't have Haymon, this is what I want.

Hell, a good idea may to have negotiations on TV or record it.

I dont think its a coiencidence that from paul williams to berto to everyone else managed by haymon, within the last 2 years there has practically been no activity between any top rank fighter and anyone managed by haymon. im also willing to bet thats why there were so many independent PPVs from arum especially within the last couple of years.

[buckdacious]

I PROMISE I wont say that, smiles !

Mayweather needs to establish himself in the WW division, he is not doing that on a comeback by fighting a lightweight.

Dr.Bokacky the Medicine Mang

But why fight a WW when you know Pac is gonna want the fight at a catch weight. Mayweather might as well get used to cutting weight now then fighting at WW and cutting weight for the Pacquiao fight. After he fights JMM and Pacquiao then fight a WW because he wont have to cut weight anymore. dont you agree

[GameBullDawg]

Well......To say Manny Pacquiao has far surpassed Floyd Mayweather Jr
accomplishments would be a lil too much wouldn't you say? considering
Floyd has had a dominate career UNDEFEATED through 5 divisions and
and has won and defended his titles for like 10 YEARS. Manny is indeed
a great fighter but Mayweather put in work at 135 and Manny didn't.
On top of that the two most dominate performances of Manny's career
came from fighters that Mayweather fought at their best weight (Oscar)
and an Undefeated fighter (Hatton). Some will argue that Pac beat
Hatton at his weight and yes he did and it was a SPECTACULAR win
but at 140 Ricky Hatton ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr and that's why
the fight NEVER happened. The only thing Manny did more was KO
Oscar and Hatton. Floyd was whipping ass dominately when Manny
was working on getting better.

So , do we agree that to settle this nice issue of who is the best is to get them in the same ring on a particular nite and RING DA BELL !!!!!!!

All this has just juiced me up to just forget the Mosley stuff and the Cotto business and just lets see ARUM get the fight, or we will be doing this forever !!!!!!!!

ARUM GET THE FIGHT OF THE FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME ON !!!!!!!!!

I am backing up on my feelings of 65 for Manny , just cut it down the middle and get the fight on, nothing will be resolved until its DONE and the Bell rings !!!!

May needs to come down to 140 - 142 if he wants to fight , COME ON DOWN Mayweather , the water is fine !

Bring it cause the sweetspot in the trenches is beconning , COME !!!!!!!!

Dr.BoKacky the Medicine Mang

[FLY TY]

take arum outta the equation too, for that matter...........

[The Gambler1981]

I dont think its a coiencidence that from paul williams to berto to everyone else managed by haymon, within the last 2 years there has practically been no activity between any top rank fighter and anyone managed by haymon. im also willing to bet thats why there were so many independent PPVs from arum especially within the last couple of years.

It is a lot like the Golden BOy-TopRank fued of a few years ago, except much more low key (atleast on Haymon's part because I have never seen anything from him public, not on Arum's part though).

Really it is just holding back the best fights from happeaning no matter who is in the right. Although it is funny how these fueds always involve Bob Arum (Arum-King, Arum-Oscar, Arum-Haymon).

[FLY TY]

I dont think its a coiencidence that from paul williams to berto to everyone else managed by haymon, within the last 2 years there has practically been no activity between any top rank fighter and anyone managed by haymon. im also willing to bet thats why there were so many independent PPVs from arum especially within the last couple of years.

it's also no coincidence that once his fighters become "big" they leave arum...

as a promoter, you shouldn't let hurt feelings get in the way of your fighters making big money.....

[bobbyb363]

manny pac is no draw!!! we all know oscar when he fought oscar oscar was the draw they dont call oscar the goldenboy for nothing!! and we all know for damn sure that Ricky Hatton was the draw in the last fight!!! you can tell by the crowd and all the britt fans!!! when manny pac fought david diaz for a title might i add it only did 200k PPV buys and arum said himself that most of those were mexican buys!!!! so how is manny pac the draw?? in the mayweather fight? put manny to the test have him fight valero or someone like that and see that no one will buy the fight!! also when manny pac fought marquez the ppv buys were 400k ppv buys and most by the mexican people again!!! to argue these facts just proves you know nothing about boxing and you are just a manny pac bandwagon boxing fan!!( if you argue this) name 1 fighter besides mayweather that manny can fight and have it do over a million ppv buys!!! oscar de la hoya proved he can do more than 1 million ppv buys WITH OUT manny pac!! and floyd mayweather proved he can do more than 1 million ppv buys WITH OUT manny pac!! even ricky hatton proved that he can do over 1 million ppv buys WITH OUT manny pac!!! the question is can Manny pac prove he can do over 1 million ppv buys with out them??? cuz the fact is he has not!!!! can anyone here prove me wrong?? THANK YOU BOB ARUM FOR ****ING UP BOXING!!! IM STARTING TO LIKE MMA NOW!!!

Floyd just started hitting those numbers only because people were hoping that he gets tagged. They both have options and yes Manny can get over 1 million fighting Shane, Cotto or williams. People want to see what he can do with the top guys around that division. He would not be favored in any of those fights in my opinion but Manny will give it his best and it will be "EXCITING" unlike the other guy you feel is the draw.
You see your boy Floyd wants to take the short cut to being on top by trying to get the naturally undersized bigger than life Pac in the ring and if he beats Pac then he can say he fought the best and then I bet he goes back into retirement.

[GameBullDawg]

But why fight a WW when you know Pac is gonna want the fight at a catch weight. Mayweather might as well get used to cutting weight now then fighting at WW and cutting weight for the Pacquiao fight. After he fights JMM and Pacquiao then fight a WW because he wont have to cut weight anymore. dont you agree

Whatever ! Now all I want to see is Pacman and Mayweather in the ring next ! Mayweather screwed this up , all he had to do was wait one day and he would have had the fight with Pac !

Now Jmm may screw this up by stomping a redneck mudhole in Mayweather thus spoiling the fight between he and Pac