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  • La_Vibora
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    #111
    Originally posted by chiyoko
    As for Roach he is crazy.Some fighters he can meet them at 147,He wants Mosley to drop down from 147.The truth is Manny cant beat Mosley which brings us to someone's allegation that Manny avoids black fighters.I've never played the race card before but this is clear.
    No true. Mosley will stand in front of Pacman so of course he can win. Don't let the Margarito win fool you, Mosley has gone downhill, he just looked good against Margs because Tony is alot slower than him.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #112
      Originally posted by La_Vibora
      No true. Mosley will stand in front of Pacman so of course he can win. Don't let the Margarito win fool you, Mosley has gone downhill, he just looked good against Margs because Tony is alot slower than him.
      but margo was a lot slower than cotto and he beat cotto he mad cotto his b1tch

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      • DonTaseMeBrah
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        #113
        i cant stand al haymon & his kid's faces. They're always mugging for the camera in the ring.

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        • GRUSTLER
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          #114
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          but margo was a lot slower than cotto and he beat cotto he mad cotto his b1tch
          Pull has a point here.

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          • Mr. Chago
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            #115
            Originally posted by cortdawg25
            so Manny gets credit for losing and coming back and Floyd is discredited for winning...WTF!

            That is what you are saying...Barrera, Morales were all on the downslide when he fough them. Now JMM beat him the 1st time and lost a close decision the 2nd time. and you telling me that trumps beating the undisputed champ at 147 and lineal champ at 147, beating an undefeated top 5 p4p fighter and fighting 1 of the sports greatest fighters at a weight and ring that was you disadvantage.

            U got to understand this.....Floyd has been champion his whole career and has defended at a 100% success rate his whole career. Manny can't trump that. But he could have a made a stronger argument if he would have fought the actual champ of the divison or atleast attempted to make a fight with the real cham p at 135. actually fight a WW champ, then his argument would be stronger.

            Beating and old Oscar who just got dominated 2 yrs ago by Floyd and beating a defeated hatton after Floyd schooled him doesn't make you surpass the man who did it 1st.
            Totally agree, I re-watched the fight hatton-floyd and they did exactly the same as Floyd, left hook and straight right hand, Paquiao the same but from the left side, right hook and straight left...

            Now Floyd lasted 10 rounds because that's how he fights, some rounds on defense, some rounds to messure the opponent, some rounds against the ropes, and some on the offensive, if you watch the fight Floyd was on the offensive on 3 rounds!....Roach prediction with the same offrensive tactic and with Phillipino relentless offensive style, 3 rounds!!

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              #116
              Originally posted by Mr. Chago
              Totally agree, I re-watched the fight hatton-floyd and they did exactly the same as Floyd, left hook and straight right hand, Paquiao the same but from the left side, right hook and straight left...

              Now Floyd lasted 10 rounds because that's how he fights, some rounds on defense, some rounds to messure the opponent, some rounds against the ropes, and some on the offensive, if you watch the fight Floyd was on the offensive on 3 rounds!....Roach prediction with the same offrensive tactic and with Phillipino relentless offensive style, 3 rounds!!
              You know what.......After the Floyd fight Roach saw the Oscar couldn't
              pull the trigger and wanted Pacquiao to fight him. After Floyd exposed
              Hatton, then I swear Lazcano and Malignaggi was trying that same hook
              as Floyd. Floyd laid the blue print down on how to beat fighters.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #117
                Originally posted by Mr. Chago
                Totally agree, I re-watched the fight hatton-floyd and they did exactly the same as Floyd, left hook and straight right hand, Paquiao the same but from the left side, right hook and straight left...

                Now Floyd lasted 10 rounds because that's how he fights, some rounds on defense, some rounds to messure the opponent, some rounds against the ropes, and some on the offensive, if you watch the fight Floyd was on the offensive on 3 rounds!....Roach prediction with the same offrensive tactic and with Phillipino relentless offensive style, 3 rounds!!
                lets be real, floyd went 10 cause he doesn't have pac's firepower.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  You know what.......After the Floyd fight Roach saw the Oscar couldn't
                  pull the trigger and wanted Pacquiao to fight him. After Floyd exposed
                  Hatton, then I swear Lazcano and Malignaggi was trying that same hook
                  as Floyd. Floyd laid the blue print down on how to beat fighters.
                  floyd's blueprint was to win decisions or tKO his opponents late.

                  pac's blueprint is simple destruction.

                  one has nothing to do with the other.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    floyd's blueprint was to win decisions or tKO his opponents late.

                    pac's blueprint is simple destruction.

                    one has nothing to do with the other.
                    Lets be real Pull, Manny didn't destroy JMM and he had two times
                    to do it. Diaz and Oscar that night wasn't on Manny's level and
                    along with Hatton. Even Mosley said he learned something from
                    the Cotto fight with Margarito.

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      floyd's blueprint was to win decisions or tKO his opponents late.

                      pac's blueprint is simple destruction.

                      one has nothing to do with the other.
                      I give Pacquiao all the credit for being an explosive dominate fighter
                      but to say that Roach and Manny didn't learn anything from watching
                      Floyd fight Oscar and Hatton is denial.

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