Hatton-Pacquiao PPV sales disappoint...under 650K US buys.

[QUISQUEYA]

Whatver the real #'s are its not indicative of Pac's actual drawing power. I know over my parts, people saved money by havin boxing parties. I know someone who just connected a stream from his laptop and hooked it up to a projector. A lot of people in this recession choose to find ways to save money. It doesn't mean there is less interest. In fact it seems there's a ****load of interest. I had like 4-5 party-invites for the fights and had to choose one. I never had that happened to me before....boxing parties, bars, chatter on the street pre-and postfight. I wore a pino jacket today and a couple of peoples asked me where I got it from....Pac got people talkin, even nonflips, even my neighborhood which is Floyd country. No doubt about that.

There's an industry canard that says the bigger the event, the greater the number of viewers per screen.

Think about it: people don't throw Barrera-Morales parties, but everybody who ordered threw a Delahoya-Mayweather party. So, that 2.4 mil for 'The World Awaits' was probably an order of magnitude greater because of all the parties.

I dunno if you remember the Tyson era. Every fight was a party.

[bhijae]

I heard it only does 100k PPV buys

source: Mr. Know it All

[Obusv477]

There's an industry canard that says the bigger the event, the greater the number of viewers per screen.

Think about it: people don't throw Barrera-Morales parties, but everybody who ordered threw a Delahoya-Mayweather party. So, that 2.4 mil for 'The World Awaits' was probably an order of magnitude greater because of all the parties.

I dunno if you remember the Tyson era. Every fight was a party.

I see your point, u fail to see mine about the economy. But lemme put it this way....whoever didn't know who Pac was before, knows about him now. Every subway stop had that damn Hatton/Pac 24/7 poster . 5 days after the fight people here are still talking. Check out this forum, theres like a thrillion Pac threads, same deal with other sites. There was a buzz created after this fight that stamps the name "Pacquiao" to the mainstream. When Joe Schmoe thinks about boxing now, they think Pacquiao---not so much Floyd or Oscar.And EVEN if the numbers are just merely in the 600-700,000 range, the fight was of such quality and generated so much press that the next time Pac fights, people WILL remember....and that at its essence is what we call DRAWING POWER, not so much numbers but public interest.

[bhijae]

i heard it only do 100k PPV buys

Source: Nostradamus

[LIL_KULIT808]

uk buys was 3 miliion......

[QUISQUEYA]

A bit of Pay-Per-View (PPV) history

Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.4 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL

Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL

Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL

Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Delahoya - Pacquiao: 1.25 Mil

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K

mayweather-Hatton - 915K

Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K

Tyson-Botha: 700K

Pacquiao - Hatton: 700K (pending final conf)

DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K

Delahoya- Quartey: 570K

Delahoya-Camacho: 560K

Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K

Trinidad- Wright: 520K

Trinidad - Vargas: 520K

Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K

Tyson-Golota: 450K

Lewis/Tua - 420K

Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K

Mosley-Vargas: 415K

Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K

Pacquiao - Marquez 2: 410K

DelaHoya - Castillejo: 400K

Mayweather-Judah : 400k

Delahoya-Sturm: 380K

Mosley- Vargas 2 375K

Taylor-Hopkins : 370K

Gatti-Mayweather: 360K

Trinidad-Joppy: 350K

Lewis - Grant: 350K

Hopkins- Tarver: 350K

Delahoya-Campas: 350K

Morales- Pacquiao 3: 360K

Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k

Morales-pacquiao: 340K

Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K

Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K

Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each

Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K

Hopkins – Wright : 305K

Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K

Mosley/Estrada & Margarito/Cintron: 225K

Barrera – Marquez: 225K

Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K

Cotto – Judah: 180K

Ruiz-Golota: 175K

Barrera-Juarez: 165K

Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K

Klitschko- Williams: 120K

Barrera-Peden: & Mosley/Cruz 110K

Cotto-Malignaggi : 90K

Barrera-Fana: 75K

Rahman-Maskaev: 60K

Margarito-Gomez: 35K

Jones – Hanshaw – 24K

[El Ceja]

damn!!! I was expecting more PPV buys.

[QUISQUEYA]

I see your point, u fail to see mine about the economy. But lemme put it this way....whoever didn't know who Pac was before, knows about him now. Every subway stop had that damn Hatton/Pac 24/7 poster . 5 days after the fight people here are still talking. Check out this forum, theres like a thrillion Pac threads, same deal with other sites. There was a buzz created after this fight that stamps the name "Pacquiao" to the mainstream. When Joe Schmoe thinks about boxing now, they think Pacquiao---not so much Floyd or Oscar.And EVEN if the numbers are just merely in the 600-700,000 range, the fight was of such quality and generated so much press that the next time Pac fights, people WILL remember....and that at its essence is what we call DRAWING POWER, not so much numbers but public interest.

I understand your point. It just is not the way business works.

1) Regarding seeing the Pac/hatton posters everywhere, I fully agree. if you read my previous post, i referred to the increased marketing budget for this fight. That reinforces my point. the greater the initial upfront investment, the greater the expected buy volume. That is why they were "hoping" but not "expecting" a higher buy rate.

2) this is the part that i disagree with. The "drawing power" is BY DEFINITION the numbers. Not popularity. Not talk around the water cooler. Not reputation. Not critical acclaim.

Will Smith is the biggest movie star in the world. He is not the best actor. Feel me? A Will Smith summer blockbuster will exceed the box office for a "Slumdog Millionaire" or a "Benjamin Button". There ws a lot of talk about Slumdog. Very little about Han****. Guess which sold more?

I don't know if you know anything about marketing metrics. There are two components. Brand recognition, and brand regard (popularity and appeal). They are not necessarily linked. Someone can be well-known, but not highly regarded.

You disagree?

[flem1]

Link please..

[HatreD]

A question from a long time BS non-poster member ( whatever that means). If the sale figures are indeed 600+K for two non-us boxers is that a good or a bad thing for the sport?