My Response To Mellow Mood

[Kevin Jesus]

lets talk about .. paul the entertainer punisher williams.......


what was wrong with my answer kevin ?????

what is wrong with my anser kevin..?? that it hurts you that nobody gives a f u ck about williams!!!

i really love williams ..and i have never diss him in any way.... i always give him props.. and i have always said. .that hes the only one climbing his mountain the hard way.. by himself!!!!

but... besides that.... DOES PAUL WILLIAMS HAVE A FANBASE APPEAL?? does paul williams... bring the numbers to play in the big leagues where the money is..??? no yet son!!1

its not my fault... i dont pay boxers.. im not a promoter... if you are.. u can put some damn good money.. in order to get your fighter decent payday....

why is so hard t osome of you... to distinguish... what you want.. and the facts.....

I want paul williams to fight anybody.. cotto, floyd, shane.. anybody!!!
but guess what...

its not up to me..... i dont pay boxers.. promoters do.. and those promoters.... think that paul williams doesnt bring **** to the table but flies... so they are not even thinking in matching a fighter.. who brings money... and risk him to loose some of his shine.... with a GREAT ATHLETE WITH FREAK ATTRIBUTES FROM mother nature... that for any fuc king reason. .DOESNT PAY THE BILLS... he cant even pay for the chairs that are rented for the arena.......

man .. shut the **** up!!!! and if you want to quote me on anything.. do it so... put my name on it.. .so everybody knows who u are talking about....


lets discuss this ****.. whenever u want..

straight questions
straight answers.!!!

i love paul williams... but that doesnt change the fact that THE CASUAL FANS doesnt care or even know who paul williams is.

just hardcore boxing fans.. like you and me.. know who the f uck he is.....

now... read my entire damn post... and tell me.. in which part im not saying the truth.






enjoy

First of all, I would like to thank you Mr. Mellow Mood, I'd like to thank you for taking your time for typing as I am aware you have better things to do since you are a father(If i'm not mistaken). In all honesty I appreciate you giving an answer like this to my thread.

Unfortunately, I have a shorter answer for you, Mr. Mellow Mood.

"I agree 100%, boxing is a business and I believe there is no such thing as ducking. Fighters want the biggest money fights out there, even the one's that look like they're fighting for legacy, that's BS, they want the money. Boxing is a job more than a sport for most of these boxers"

The reason I quoted you on that thread is because you said the truth, it wasn't because I wanted to put you on the spot or anything like that. I wanted other posters to see your response to "why Cotto won't fight Wiliams". You gave a response that I wanted to read, you didn't give any BS response like several other Cotto fans do. Now, the reason i loved your response, is because the same response can be applied for Floyd Mayweather Jr as to why he is only looking for the big fights. BUT, it's not applied to Floyd, why?, I don't know, but it does. The answer you gave in that thread, should be applied to every other fighter instead saying he "ducked" this fighter or "ducked" that fighter.

Why should have Floyd fight Cotto after the DLH fight?

(I'm going to apply your answer on this one)

MAYWEATHER had way more lucrative fights out there for him with less risk.

What did Cotto bring to the table at that time compared to Hatton or De La Hoya?

Let's see

De La Hoya vs Mayweather II: At least $30 Mill
Hatton vs Mayweather: Mayweather got $20 Mill(in total)
Cotto vs Mayweather: Mayweather was just involved in the biggest PPV boxing event, selling 2.4 Mill PPV's. What has Cotto done(numbers-wise) to take DLH's/Hatton's place for a fight with Floyd, when Mayweather was being offered a guaranteed $20 Mill for a rematch with Oscar while this Cotto hype was going on?

You don't have to answer that, you already did.

MAYWEATHER had way more lucrative fights out there for him with less risk.

Thank you for reading, and thank you for being honest on why Cotto won't fight Paul Williams.

Peace.

[mellow_mood]

First of all, I would like to thank you Mr. Mellow Mood, I'd like to thank you for taking your time for typing as I am aware you have better things to do since you are a father(If i'm not mistaken). In all honesty I appreciate you giving an answer like this to my thread.

Unfortunately, I have a shorter answer for you, Mr. Mellow Mood.

"I agree 100%, boxing is a business and I believe there is no such thing as ducking. Fighters want the biggest money fights out there, even the one's that look like they're fighting for legacy, that's BS, they want the money. Boxing is a job more than a sport for most of these boxers"

The reason I quoted you on that thread is because you said the truth, it wasn't because I wanted to put you on the spot or anything like that. I wanted other posters to see your response to "why Cotto won't fight Wiliams". You gave a response that I wanted to read, you didn't give any BS response like several other Cotto fans do. Now, the reason i loved your response, is because the same response can be applied for Floyd Mayweather Jr as to why he is only looking for the big fights. BUT, it's not applied to Floyd, why?, I don't know, but it does. The answer you gave in that threa, should be applied to every other fighter instead saying he "ducked" this fighter or "ducked" that fighter.

Why should have Floyd fight Cotto after the DLH fight?

(I'm going to apply your answer on this one)



What did Cotto bring to the table att hat time compared to Hatton or De La Hoya?

Let's see

De La Hoya vs Mayweather II: At least $30 Mill
Hatton vs Mayweather: Mayweather got $20 Mill(in total)
Cotto vs Mayweather: Mayweather was just involved in the biggest PPV boxing event, selling 2.4 Mill PPV's. What has Cotto done(numbers-wise) to take DLH's/Hatton's place for a fight with Floyd, when Mayweather was being offered a guaranteed $20 Mill for a rematch with Oscar while this Cotto fight waas going on?

You don't have to answer that, you already did.




Thank you for reading, and thank you for being honest on why Cotto won't fight Paul Williams.

Peace.

sure .. kid!!

straight questions straight answers....


the thing is that you were quoting me.. .in a way.. that other poster might think that im giving u that as an excuse.. and bash mayweather for the same reason....


1- I have never diss or bash williams for anything besides his fan base appeal.. and thats not dissin .. thats the true. I tip my hat off.. to wiliams cos hes the only one... climbing his mountain the hard way....


2- Im glad my answer help you to elaborate more any of your previous discussion with any cotto fan.


3- cotto brin nothing more than a possibility of seeing mayweather going into a fight with a chance to loose... but lets not use cotto... lets use...

shane,
lets use.... "williams" !!!


if you can come here and say that a fight between cotto vs pbf will not bring good numbers.. then i dont know what to say...

[mellow_mood]

me on...floyds being afraid of margarito

He decided to retire right before Margarito manhandled Miguel Cotto. Then he goes into oblivion. Margarito's career then takes a turn for the worse and is now pretty much over. A few months later Mayweather announces his return. Hmm..... big coincidence? People say Mayweather-Marquez is happening becuase Marquez called him out and its his fault if he gets a beating. Margarito did the same and Mayweather turned down a career high 8 million dollar pay day.

i can come clear here and say with all honesty.. that i will never claim or say that the floyd was afraid of margie...

floyd has never been afraid of anybody but himself.

[savorduhflavor]

If Cotto beats Clottey than goes on to beat Pac....A Cotto/Floyd PPV does well over a million, probably approaches 2 mill.

[mellow_mood]

CY: asking me... on a possible fight between floyd & cotto

mr mellow mood, who do you think would win in these fights at welter.. Floyd vs Cotto? Floyd vs Mosley? Floyd vs Berto? Floyd vs Clottey? Floyd vs Jennings?

my response.
Mr mellow mood replies: Floyd vs cotto = floyd has the style to beat him easy with the pot shot style.. same as he did to baldi... but u have to take in consideration that floyd has never faced anyone who pressures with boxing skills and power as cotto does. Still i think floyd has the tools to beat him, but i wouldnt count cotto off.

shane vs floyd = i pick shane mosley to beat him.

floyd vs berto = ****** question.. berto cant handle luis collazo... so... ****** question

floyd vs clottey = floyd clear UD


CY on me.. after just talking for a few secs.

C.Y.
yeah you seem like a genuine good boxing fan, i just didnt agree with what you said about the mayweather/marquez situation.. thanks for answering the may/marquez vs cotto/jennings thing.. no one would answer that and you have shown you are not a biased poster.. peace

real talk!

[Kevin Jesus]

if you can come here and say that a fight between cotto vs pbf will not bring good numbers.. then i dont know what to say...

Oh it'll bring good numbers, trust me it would. Great numbers? no. Good numbers? yes. De La Hoya numbers? No, Ricky Hatton numbers, 25,000 Puerto Ricans type numbers? no. I don't think Cotto and Mayweather are looking for good numbers, I think they both want, Pacquiao-type numbers. Cotto knows this, Mayweather knows this.

Why is Cotto so quick on pulling the trigger on a Pacman fight? and "not so fast, hold your horses" on a Mayweather fight?

Money talks. I'm glad you understand this, this discussion is dead because you and I know what's going on here, no "Cotto ducking Williams" no "Mayweaher ducking Cotto". Just two fighters looking to be paid the most money with little risk.

Agreed?

[mellow_mood]

it seems like it only was a missunderstanding so!!

for me.... i think we both are clear !

[mellow_mood]

Oh it'll bring good numbers, trust me it would. Great numbers? no. Good numbers? yes. De La Hoya numbers? No, Ricky Hatton numbers, 25,000 Puerto Ricans type numbers? no. I don't think Cotto and Mayweather are looking for good numbers, I think they both want, Pacquiao-type numbers. Cotto knows this, Mayweather knows this.

Why is Cotto so quick on pulling the trigger on a Pacman fight? and "not so fast, hold your horses" on a Mayweather fight?

Money talks. I'm glad you understand this, this discussion is dead because you and I know what's going on here, no "Cotto ducking Williams" no "Mayweaher ducking Cotto". Just two fighters looking to be paid the most money with little risk.

Agreed?

agreed...

but ... i want to know why u say that cotto is holding the horses on a mayweather fight?

u know kevin .. that a fight between pac vs cotto ... is way way 10000 times more viable that a fight between cotto and mayweather.

so i dont know why u pretend to insinuate.. that cotto wants something about manny but no part with mayweather...

why??

a fight with mayweather will leave cotto with more money than a fight with pac.

[Kevin Jesus]

agreed...

but ... i want to know why u say that cotto is holding the horses on a mayweather fight?

u know kevin .. that a fight between pac vs cotto ... is way way 10000 times more viable that a fight between cotto and mayweather.

so i dont know why u pretend to insinuate.. that cotto wants something about manny but no part with mayweather...

why??

a fight with mayweather will leave cotto with more money than a fight with pac.

Nooo, Cotto isn't scared of Floyd. I mean hold your horses as in "okay Pacquiao is small, and can bring me at least 10-15 Mill, easy" same can be said about Floyd "Pacquiao is small and can bring me 15-20 Mill easy(at least)" remember what we talked about, "lower risk, higher reward" Money Pacquiao just came off probably selling, what? 2 Mill PPV's?

A fight with Mayweather would be big, but how big really? who is demanding Mayweather vs Cotto at this moment? Maybe a lot of fans are(including me and I would pay 50 bucks for Cotto vs Mayweather) but the majority wants Mayweather vs Pacquiao(now).

Cotto is smart, he knows that a win over Manny Pacquiao would lead to none other than who? Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather.

If Cotto can get to Pacquiao first, and beat him, that's a win-win situation for him. He knows that, that's why he wants Pacquiao. Mayweather vs Cotto would happen in 2010 if Cotto happens to beat Pacquiao this year.

[mellow_mood]

Nooo, Cotto isn't scared of Floyd. I mean hold your horses as in "okay Pacquiao is small, and can bring me at least 10-15 Mill, easy" same can be said about Floyd "Pacquiao is small and can bring me 15-20 Mill easy(at least)" remember what we talked about, "lower risk, higher reward" Money Pacquiao just came off probably selling, what? 2 Mill PPV's?

A fight with Mayweather would be big, but how big really? who is demanding Mayweather vs Cotto at this moment? Maybe a lot of fans are(including me and I would pay 50 bucks for Cotto vs Mayweather) but the majority wants Mayweather vs Pacquiao(now).

Cotto is smart, he knows that a win over Manny Pacquiao would lead to none other than who? Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather.

If Cotto can get to Pacquiao first, and beat him, that's a win-win situation for him. He knows that, that's why he wants Pacquiao. Mayweather vs Cotto would happen in 2010 if Cott happens to beat Pacquiao this year.

and i think he will get pac first than mayweather... of course if he beats clottey...

if cotto beats clottey he will get pac.. for sure..

if he losses to clottey pac and obviously a fight with mayweather.

pac vs mayweather is not going to happen. unless cotto loosses to clotey