Mayweather vs. Pavlik or JMM vs. Mayweather. Equally (un)fair?

[blind4]

they fight is already sing who cares

[Vasyl’s dad]

does mayweather have to pick marquez up and slam him to the ground? does he have to push him out of a circle like in a sumo match? if not, the weight class argument doesn't hold merit.

height and reach are the only 2 measurables in a boxing match IMO. just look at 6'1 chagaev vs 7'0 valuev. Is chagaev really that great that he was able to beat Valuev? no. yes, he has boxing skills, but he used a basic strategy to beat Valuev.

If marquez wins or loses in this fight, it won't be because he moved up in weight classes, it will be because of the difference in skill.

So what advantages would Caballero hold over Floyd?


If the weight class argument holds no merit,

it wouldn't be a problem for Floyd to face Kelly or Arthur at 158, right?

[-Swizzy-]

Aaahhh. The height division argument again.

So you think that Hearns vs. Leonard was unfair as well?

I don't only use height and reach to compare fighters. but IF I were to compare fighters solely based on their physical attributes, yes height and reach would be all I look at.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Are you taking into account what the REAL weight of the fighters was (ie rehydrated weight)? Thats what counts.

Marquez was 141. Floyd was 147.

Pavlik was 160+ to Floyd's 147.

Are you kidding me right now? Is there any real debate here as to which size disadvantage is more profound? Don't even let me get into comparing the height and reach differentials in the two fights...

Bottom line: I'm not a Floyd Mayweather apologizer; I think he should fight the best fighters out there. I was disappointed when he took the DLH fight. I was annoyed at some of his picks at 147. But I don't let it cloud my judgement like most of the people on here who choose extremes when they are debating. It's the reason why threads like this are even allowed to be taken seriously and its pretty sad.

Wasn't a problem when Baldomir or DLH was 160+, now why would it be a problem for Kelly?

btw, I voted unfair on both counts.

[Mary Jane]

Bat is an inbred idiot from Denmark that hates Mayweather, why do you guys give him the time of day?

[Burner]

Why wouldn't he if he can make 140?Supposedly, hes one of the pound for pound best.

Because he hasnt fought or had to make anyweight in 2 years and hasnt weighed 140 pounds in 5 years...GENIOUS!

[Mary Jane]

Wasn't a problem when Baldomir or DLH was 160+, now why would it be a problem for Kelly?

btw, I voted unfair on both counts.

Does your cholo ass ever get bored running into every Mayweather thread and displaying zero objectivity?

[BattlingNelson]

I don't only use height and reach to compare fighters. but IF I were to compare fighters solely based on their physical attributes, yes height and reach would be all I look at.

So in the future we should abolish the weight divisions and replace them with height divisions?

By your defintion every fight featuring Paul Williams is unfair....... I mean who can he fight under your rules? Wlad Klit???????

[larry x]

Fine, special condition taken off,

what are your thoughts now?

Margarito called out Floyd,

so what was the problem?

dude get over the mago ****..he's a bum..he said **** margo and fought a bum with the lineal belt..and more money./.get in now

[Vasyl’s dad]

Because he hasnt fought or had to make anyweight in 2 years and hasnt weighed 140 pounds in 5 years...GENIOUS!

So you agree,

he can't make 140.


Thats all I was looking for, genius.