Mayweather vs. Pavlik or JMM vs. Mayweather. Equally (un)fair?

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  • QUISQUEYA
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    #91
    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
    Explain what?

    That he can't make 140 even when you cats insist he can?

    You tell me.
    Negrito,

    Do you believe that Mayweather can make 140?

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    • ИATAS
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      #92
      Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
      Fine, special condition taken off,

      what are your thoughts now?

      Margarito called out Floyd,

      so what was the problem?
      I have no idea I never paid much attention at the time since I've never really been a fan of Mayweather. All I know is it's irrelevant to the JMM fight.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #93
        Originally posted by bsrizpac
        There was no problem. he was focused on moving towards an Oscar fight. That was the goal. Not fighting some no name one dimensional clown WITHOUT even a title belt to help him on his quest.

        This has been done to death.



        lol belts, its about the belts now eh? I thought it was about money and legacy?

        There was a problem,

        Tony at the time posed a legitimate threat.

        Something Floyd hasn't wanted since Castillo.

        Same reasoning for not fighting Cotto, Mosley or any other welter of note.

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        • Bhopreign
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          #94
          Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
          When did JMM become unhittable?

          Pac decked him 4 times.

          surely an incredibly smart fighter wouldn't touch the canvas 4 times in 2 fights.

          Or am I missing something?
          So youre saying Marquez isnt smart? How did he survive after being knocked down? Most fighters probably wouldnt have made it, but he makes adjustments all the time, Pac didnt keep dropping him after that, matter of fact Marquez won the first fight in some eyes. How did Roy go up to Heavy and beat Ruiz? What did it take?
          Last edited by Bhopreign; 05-06-2009, 03:27 PM.

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            #95
            Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
            Explain what?

            That he can't make 140 even when you cats insist he can?

            You tell me.
            You just completelky ducked the question.

            Ill ask again

            After years off fighting at 147 and higher why would he drop to 140 pounds in his comeback fight when he hasnt made 140 pounds in 5 years?

            Please explain that.

            Thanks in advance

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              #96
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              So youre saying Marquez isnt smart? How did he survive after being knocked down? Most fighters probably wouldnt have made it, but he makes adjustments all the time, Pac didnt keep dropping him after that, matter of fact Marquez the first fight in some eyes. How did Roy go up to Heavy and beat Ruiz? What did it take?
              Smart fighters get dropped 3 times and leave with a draw...which means ...you won.

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #97
                Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                Negrito,

                Do you believe that Mayweather can make 140?
                Nope, never have believed that crap.

                I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the people who insisted he can make 140 with no problems because "hes a small welter".

                Now, they don't want to go anywhere near those comments.

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                • -Swizzy-
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                  Celestino Caballero is 5'11".


                  Does he have the advantage over Floyd?
                  yes.

                  although in a WRESTLING match, I would have to give it to floyd.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!

                    lol belts, its about the belts now eh? I thought it was about money and legacy?

                    There was a problem,

                    Tony at the time posed a legitimate threat.

                    Something Floyd hasn't wanted since Castillo.

                    Same reasoning for not fighting Cotto, Mosley or any other welter of note.
                    I thought you disowned Marg. You dont think Floyd could have done even half of what Shane did? Marg without plaster we saw the result, nothing on his punches, he doesnt hit hard at all, that was plaster we were seeing all along.

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                    • Vasyl’s dad
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by The Don.
                      You just completelky ducked the question.

                      Ill ask again

                      After years off fighting at 147 and higher why would he drop to 140 pounds in his comeback fight when he hasnt made 140 pounds in 5 years?

                      Please explain that.

                      Thanks in advance
                      Hes a pound for pound fighter, and many in your mafia have claimed he can make 140 with no problem. Seeing as how he never intended to even fight welters,

                      why fight at the welter limit?

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