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  • truthhurts
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    #121
    sebspeed, i disagree but respect luckyleft with facts. you are on the other hand are like a child. You haven't brought anything to the table. So for that I must say, NEXT TIME GROWN FOLKS TALKING YOU SHOULD CLOSE YOUR MOUTH.

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    • truthhurts
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      #122
      the don, when bhop beat winky it was at 170 a year after he was called out at 160 by the same man. wait didnt he do the same to trinidad and de la hoya? he blows people up to a division after he gets settled there.

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      • truthhurts
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        #123
        to flippin money

        b-hop is ducking him to not be exposed that is my claim. thanks for proving that because if not then you tell me why?

        that is exactly what Vic would have to do but wait there are laws so if he wanted to get away from Shaw Im sure that contract would have to expire. He sold himself to the devil. This is why Shaw doesnt want it because Vic would have everyright to that status and he wont start ducking for $, n Shaw knows it.
        Last edited by truthhurts; 05-06-2009, 12:58 PM.

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        • LEFTYGUNZZ
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          #124
          Originally posted by truthhurts
          the don, when bhop beat winky it was at 170 a year after he was called out at 160 by the same man. wait didnt he do the same to trinidad and de la hoya? he blows people up to a division after he gets settled there.
          De la Hoya moved up to 160 to fight Hopkins for $$$$....It was ODLH choice no fault to Hopkins he was fighting at 160 for years already... As for Trinidad that was the final fight in a Middle Weight tournament not Hopkins forcing him to blow up to fight him you can make a case for Jones doing that having Trinidad fight him at a whopping 170 lbs. As for Winky Wright Hopkins was looking to make a run at the LHW division and Tarver Winky couldn't get anyone else to fight him at 154-160 so he opted to fight B Hop for the $$$....You can't blame Hopkins for that same deal with Pavlik hopkins offered him money to fight him at 170 right? pavlik did beat Taylor and was weighing 167 for that fight i do not see the big deal except that Hopkns is a great fighter period....Lefty

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          • AntonTheMeh
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            #125
            ..................... pass..........

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            • truthhurts
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              #126
              whats the excuse for blowing up trinidad and delahoya before he fought them.

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              • truthhurts
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                #127
                i dont have all day to blog so email if your interested!

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                • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by truthhurts
                  whats the excuse for blowing up trinidad and delahoya before he fought them.
                  Dude seriously are you not hearing me he did not blow up Trinidad that was a middle weight tournament thety fought in the final fight of that tournament. it wasn;t Hopkins at 160 and Trinidad was fighting at 140 or something they were both in that division go check the records if you dont believe me. As for ODLH well he held titles at 154 and wanted to move up to 160 to challenge B Hop he fought Sturm first and got a gift decision as many saw it then fought Hopkins pretty hard for a few rounds until Hopkins doubled him over with a liver shot....Check you history Hopkins didn;t entice or call out ODLH that was probably an Oscar idea to make some real money ofr the both of them.....Lefty

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                  • Flippin_Money
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by truthhurts
                    b-hop is ducking him to not be exposed that is my claim. thanks for proving that because if not then you tell me why?

                    that is exactly what Vic would have to do but wait there are laws so if he wanted to get away from Shaw Im sure that contract would have to expire. He sold himself to the devil. This is why Shaw doesnt want it because Vic would have everyright to that status and he wont start ducking for $, n Shaw knows it.
                    "B-Hop is ducking him..."

                    if you say that, why is he on ur list??? That's the point I''m tryin to make.

                    Promotional contracts don't specify who a fighter has to fight... he's signed under Gary Shaw for a certain number of fights and I highly doubt it says in the "legal" contract that "YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FIGHT NONITO DONAIRE AGAIN IF YOU LOSE TO HIM AND I DON'T PROMOTE HIM ANYMORE"... I'm pretty sure in the end, it's the fighter's decision whether or not to sign on for a fight... Shaw didn't put a gun to his head and tell him to sign the line to fight in all these post-Donaire fights. In conclusion, he's duckin him...

                    Ur now making reasons for why someone is ducking another fighter, when the list supposedly consists of those that don't duck people.

                    look... nothin personal, I agree with some of your list and I respect people's opinions. I just don't agree with how u made your rankings of "people who dont care for money and dont duck other people". It's boxing... that's what a lot of boxers do mainly because of the business side of boxing.

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                    • deanrw
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by truthhurts
                      i hear the insults but i fail to hear the truth.

                      you simply cannot value a fighter who avoids over one who cant get the name he needs for the recognition he deserves.
                      Here is what you fail to see. There are fighters out there who want a piece of Paul, they are just not well known enough yet. The more marketable Paul becomes, the more people who will want a piece of him.

                      Everyone wants to fight Floyd, Manny or Hatton because fighting them means instant riches.

                      Paul right now, is high risk low reward for those who are more well known, so they will avoid him. It is simple math.

                      Once Paul becomes highly marketable, he will then be the one accused of ducking someone basically because he will view them as high risk/low reward.

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