Has Pacman overshadowed Floyd with his last 2 wins?

[deevel79]

ok, i hear u. But in my opinion he was toying with him. He didn't turn it up and throws combos to like the 7th rd. When it comes to a gameplan, u right, there is none better. But these short attention spanned people can't appreciate that. I think he would get less criticized if he attacked and went for the kill quicker. But u right, he was setting hatton up at the beginning of the fight.

That's his style though. He plays it safe and waits for his opponents to make mistakes in order for him to capitalize off of them. It doesnt make for a very exciting entertaining bout, but it works for him. You're right. Had Floyd adopted more of a killer instinct, he wouldnt get criticized as much for his bland style.

[P4P Opinion]

As much as I rate Mayweather as one of the greatest of his generation, Pacquaio has now achieved more than him in the ring.

Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Erik Morales twice, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

vs

Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

I'm ranking in terms of what I consider to be great victories. A fight between them absolutely has to happen to decide who is greater. Right now, Pacquiao edges it.

[deevel79]

Pac beat Hatton at his own weight. Floyd dragged Ricky up to 147, even though many of you claim Mayweather can easily get down to 140.


The DLH is even. Neither faced a decent version. DLH had been a part time fighter for years by the time Floyd faced him. Floyd outpointed him, Manny stopped him.

In both cases, Pac looked better in doing so. First by stopping DLH, then by beating Hatton at his own weight.

Pac looks better every time while Floyd stans get upset and angry that the world, not just the boxing community, is taking notice of Manny Pacquiao.

Exactly. Co-sign.

[-Swizzy-]

Overshadowed as in popularity? No

ATG rank wise? Yes

I disagree with the popularity. I think pac is about even in popularity right now. after the fight, so many ppl were talking about it on tv including on other sports shows like Inside the NBA. I didn't see nearly as much talk about the mayweather-dlh fight AFTER the fight.

[Vasyl’s dad]

That's his style though. He plays it safe and waits for his opponents to make mistakes in order for him to capitalize off of them. It doesnt make for a very exciting entertaining bout, but it works for him. You're right. Had Floyd adopted more of a killer instinct, he wouldnt get criticized as much for his bland style.

People simply don't understand that this is a gladiator sport, one in which the spectators expect to see some brutal and exciting action.

Floyd, as great as he is with all of his talent,

is just not eye catching due to always trying to play it safe and just get the win.

That bores people. The same way a 1-0 pitchers duel is incredibly exciting to baseball purists, its almost an insult to the people who came to see homeruns.

[cortdawg25]

As much as I rate Mayweather as one of the greatest of his generation, Pacquaio has now achieved more than him in the ring.

Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Erik Morales twice, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

vs

Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

I'm ranking in terms of what I consider to be great victories. A fight between them absolutely has to happen to decide who is greater. Right now, Pacquiao edges it.

i think corrales would have beaten MAb, Morales, JMM at 130 though. and castillo would beat them at 135. And u didn't even mention Genaro Hernandez who only lost to oscar and floyd ever!

pacman is a great figher now, but floyd has been great his whole career! In time manny won;t be looked at in the same way as Floyd unless he beats him!

[ELPacman]

Personally, IMHO, talk about whether Pacquiao is P4P #1 is amute at this point, talk should be whether or not Pacquiao is ATG. He's proven himself time and time over again, and not until he loses will certain people be happy. So much discredit and lack of respect before so many of his fights and yet he comes out on top time and time again with dominating performances. A man that puts that much work ethic in, and shows in each fights, deserves every accolade he gets.

[nujabes77]

Pacmans feat is more impressive considering how small he is and how he fought at 4 different weight classes in his last 4 fights, also Pac was supposed to get ko'd by Hoya and Hatton was supposed to be the toughest fight of his life, Floyd was a huge favourite in both the fights.

amennnnnnnnnnnnn

[mrlopez]

Im a huge fan of both,but obviously he has..hes TKO'd the icon DLH who Floyd took to a decision,and BRUTALLY ko'd Hatton to the point it looked like Hatton was dying in only two rounds,his fan base is huge,everywhere he goes hes got followers,****,he even had a bigger ovation in Manchester,and if the rumours are true,and the PPV did do either 1.5 to 2 million buys,its proof in the pudding

Pac is a global phenom

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Great Post! Co-sign to the fullest!!!!

[Spacey1991]

Surely everyone who saw the fight, know that Pac's fights with Oscar and Hatton were far more exciting and spectacular than Floyd's fights with the same opponents.

Now if you're a casual fan, and u saw all 4 fights, who's fights will u be purchasing again in the future? Pacman has a much more fan friendly style, and is humble. He has the respect of the fans, and has shown that he is willing to step up to the plate and take the risks to prove he is worthy of his pfp#1 status.

So my question is: Has Pac overshadowed Floyd? I personally think so. He's a worldwide phenom. He has nike endorsments, and has been listed in forbes magazine as top 100 most influential people in the world. His following and fanbase has risen dramatically over the past few yrs, and will continue to grow. I feel Floyd senses this, and this is why he picked the night of his fight with Hatton to announce his comeback fight. He basically tried to steal Pac and Hatton's thunder, but to no avail. Pac's demolishion of Hatton was too much to be outshined by Floyd's classless antics.

As much as Floyd's fanboys want to disagree, right now Floyd needs Pac more than Pac needs Floyd.

None of them NEED each other, but the fans WANT to see this fight happen.

Overshadowed as in popularity? No

ATG rank wise? Yes

Fair post and I can agree...