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  • Originally posted by vaborikua View Post
    and your such a hater
    How? Because I am not sold on Miguel Cotto like you? I am sure that
    you don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer so whatever? Do you
    consider yourself a hater? It's funny to me how I read posts on how everyone rags and discredits Floyd like it's nothing but the minute somebody says something about their favorite fighter then he's a hater? Bottom line is that we all have favorites. Miguel Cotto is just not impressive to me as a complete boxer. Manny Pacquiao is, Juan Manuel Marquez is, Paul Williams is, Shane Mosley is but I'm not feeling Cotto like everyone else is but I think he is entertaining just not one of
    my favorites.

    PS
    Antonio Margarito and Andre Berto are OVERRATED
    too. Does that make you happy?

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    • catchweight fights.... what happened to the good ol days??? leonard vs hagler, duran vs leonard etc

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      • Originally posted by cottothechamp View Post
        anyone who thinks miguel cotto is overrated should never watch boxing again and jump of a cliff. Cotto will beat pacquiao and will be pacs next opponent onces he beats clottey. Cotto will beat clottey, clottey has a good defense but very weak offense. Cotto will dig that body and just pile up points the hole fight.
        Ok, so if Miguel Cotto beats Joshua Clottey CONVINCINGLY!
        (No BIAS decisions) I will man up and give him his props.

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          How? Because I am not sold on Miguel Cotto like you? I am sure that
          you don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer so whatever? Do you
          consider yourself a hater? It's funny to me how I read posts on how everyone rags and discredits Floyd like it's nothing but the minute somebody says something about their favorite fighter then he's a hater? Bottom line is that we all have favorites. Miguel Cotto is just not impressive to me as a complete boxer. Manny Pacquiao is, Juan Manuel Marquez is, Paul Williams is, Shane Mosley is but I'm not feeling Cotto like everyone else is but I think he is entertaining just not one of
          my favorites.

          PS
          Antonio Margarito and Andre Berto are OVERRATED
          too. Does that make you happy?
          You're not a hater, you're a good poster.

          But I don't see where you see Cotto as overrated. I mean, maybe overrated by his fans? But in general?

          Cotto has a lot of potential, as much as anyone in boxing. I don't see the many holes you see in him. I actually see close to no holes in his offense. His defense definitely has holes, but it's not as bad as some people say. He has trouble with uppercuts and straights. But he's not awful defensively. People point to the Margarito fight and go "oh if he gets tagged at will by a slow fighter like Tony" blah blah blah. People forget, for the first 5 rounds he was looking like Sweet Pea at times. Once he started wearing down, it was a different story.

          His defense needs work, but it's by no means terrible.

          You're a good poster so I'm not calling you out or anything like that. I'm just curious to see where you find Cotto so overrated. I think everyone looks at him as an exciting fighter that is a few defensive tweaks away from being a top 3 p4p fighter on the planet.

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            How? Because I am not sold on Miguel Cotto like you? I am sure that
            you don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer so whatever? Do you
            consider yourself a hater? It's funny to me how I read posts on how everyone rags and discredits Floyd like it's nothing but the minute somebody says something about their favorite fighter then he's a hater? Bottom line is that we all have favorites. Miguel Cotto is just not impressive to me as a complete boxer. Manny Pacquiao is, Juan Manuel Marquez is, Paul Williams is, Shane Mosley is but I'm not feeling Cotto like everyone else is but I think he is entertaining just not one of
            my favorites.

            PS
            Antonio Margarito and Andre Berto are OVERRATED
            too. Does that make you happy?
            your just assuming **** bout the mayweather ****. Ive always said mayweather got skills never said hes overrated or nothing like that just taht i hate that he dont fight the best all the time and i dont like his attitude. if you dont like him fine but hes not overrated he has alot of skill only lost to a man that loaded his gloves beat the impressive complete boxer in shane mosley and beat everyone else.

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            • Not everyone has to like Cotto. I like him to some extent, but I prefer watchin Pacquiao or Juanma fight. As for the Pacquiao fight, I believe that its unnecessary but it would bring alot of cash to both boxers, so its likely gonna happen. Thing is, Cotto has a good chance of beating Pacquiao, so technically Cotto beating Pacquiao would destroy Pacquiao vs. Mayweather, and Pacquiao beating Cotto would destroy Cotto vs. Mayweather, so thats really a bummer.

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              • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                How? Because I am not sold on Miguel Cotto like you? I am sure that
                you don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer so whatever? Do you
                consider yourself a hater? It's funny to me how I read posts on how everyone rags and discredits Floyd like it's nothing but the minute somebody says something about their favorite fighter then he's a hater? Bottom line is that we all have favorites. Miguel Cotto is just not impressive to me as a complete boxer. Manny Pacquiao is, Juan Manuel Marquez is, Paul Williams is, Shane Mosley is but I'm not feeling Cotto like everyone else is but I think he is entertaining just not one of
                my favorites.

                PS
                Antonio Margarito and Andre Berto are OVERRATED
                too. Does that make you happy?


                U say pacquiao is, same w/ marquez, paul williams, & shane. But u dont think cotto is.

                Who beat shane?

                MIGUEL COTTO

                Who took on Paul Williams?

                Antonio Margarito.

                Who beat Margarito?

                Shane Mosley.


                See who's missing in the equation grustler. Thats right, p4p greatest of all time fraud jr. who took on ricky hatton,zab judah, & carlos baldomir at welter weight.


                Cmon brah.

                That could have been fraud jr. proving everyone wrong on margarito. That would have been a nice efff u win to all his critics if he beat margarito. But he didnt. He didnt have the guts to get in the same ring as tony. He made a 36 year old do it then monday morning quarterback his way & say see i told u he was nothing.

                No shame in his game.


                i do agree w/ berto being overrated tho.
                Last edited by DonTaseMeBrah; 05-06-2009, 09:30 PM.

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                • Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                  You're not a hater, you're a good poster.

                  But I don't see where you see Cotto as overrated. I mean, maybe overrated by his fans? But in general?

                  Cotto has a lot of potential, as much as anyone in boxing. I don't see the many holes you see in him. I actually see close to no holes in his offense. His defense definitely has holes, but it's not as bad as some people say. He has trouble with uppercuts and straights. But he's not awful defensively. People point to the Margarito fight and go "oh if he gets tagged at will by a slow fighter like Tony" blah blah blah. People forget, for the first 5 rounds he was looking like Sweet Pea at times. Once he started wearing down, it was a different story.

                  His defense needs work, but it's by no means terrible.

                  You're a good poster so I'm not calling you out or anything like that. I'm just curious to see where you find Cotto so overrated. I think everyone looks at him as an exciting fighter that is a few defensive tweaks away from being a top 3 p4p fighter on the planet.
                  I mean, Miguel Cotto is indeed an entertaining fighter but once
                  he said after the Margarito fight that the reason why he didn't
                  clinch or hold was because that's not what Boxing is about?
                  Those are words from a good fighter not a great one. I think
                  Cotto could have beat Margarito but he did not study him and
                  completely underestimated Antonio Margarito, eventhough they
                  fought on the same card prior to their fight. Miguel Cotto has
                  potential to be a better fighter but he still needs work at
                  his fundamentals. I think the Margarito fight is a perfect example
                  to see how he adapts in the ring when his power and pressure is
                  neutralized.

                  People keep making excuses that Margarito used Plaster but if that
                  is the case who knows how long he has been using it? So if he used
                  it agaisnt Cotto then he used it before Cotto and with that said then
                  he had it on with Paul Williams but did Paul fight Margarito like that?
                  Did Joshua Clottey fight Margarito like that? & Clottey had a broken
                  hand. The reason I say he is overrated is because he did not come
                  to the ring with a plan on how to beat the bigger man and couldn't
                  adapt to the pressure and laid on the ropes, totally giving the 1
                  dimensional fighter the advantage over his superiority skill wise.

                  Again, people say Margarito had Plaster but we have to take into consideration that he had it for Williams and clottey too but they
                  fought Margarito with a smarter game plan. Clottey lost but survived
                  injured? I feel Cotto was just feeling himself too much and he even said
                  before the Margarito fight that he felt invincible, so he slept on
                  his opposition and paid for it. He's good but not great.

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                  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    I mean, Miguel Cotto is indeed an entertaining fighter but once
                    he said after the Margarito fight that the reason why he didn't
                    clinch or hold was because that's not what Boxing is about?
                    Those are words from a good fighter not a great one. I think
                    Cotto could have beat Margarito but he did not study him and
                    completely underestimated Antonio Margarito, eventhough they
                    fought on the same card prior to their fight. Miguel Cotto has
                    potential to be a better fighter but he still needs work at
                    his fundamentals. I think the Margarito fight is a perfect example
                    to see how he adapts in the ring when his power and pressure is
                    neutralized.

                    People keep making excuses that Margarito used Plaster but if that
                    is the case who knows how long he has been using it? So if he used
                    it agaisnt Cotto then he used it before Cotto and with that said then
                    he had it on with Paul Williams but did Paul fight Margarito like that?
                    Did Joshua Clottey fight Margarito like that? & Clottey had a broken
                    hand. The reason I say he is overrated is because he did not come
                    to the ring with a plan on how to beat the bigger man and couldn't
                    adapt to the pressure and laid on the ropes, totally giving the 1
                    dimensional fighter the advantage over his superiority skill wise.

                    Again, people say Margarito had Plaster but we have to take into consideration that he had it for Williams and clottey too but they
                    fought Margarito with a smarter game plan. Clottey lost but survived
                    injured? I feel Cotto was just feeling himself too much and he even said
                    before the Margarito fight that he felt invincible, so he slept on
                    his opposition and paid for it. He's good but not great.
                    He's stubborn, but to me, when someone's main problem is game planning and refusing to clinch, and the fighter is 28, that's pretty impressive.

                    I agree he's an idiot and it pisses me off with his too macho to clinch thing. And I agree that he didn't adapt well to Margarito's pressure, but that's the only time we've seen him not adapt well.

                    Cotto has great skills, and he has good fundamentals. I think you're confusing fundamentals with game planning. Clinching isn't a fundamental. Cotto has good footwork, tight punches that he can throw with both hands. Cotto in the hands of the right trainer, IMO, can be as good as any fighter going right now with the exception of Floyd.

                    I think you're "Cotto is overrated" thing is more a reaction to Cotto fans that bother you.

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                    • Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
                      U say pacquiao is, same w/ marquez, paul williams, & shane. But u dont think cotto is.

                      Who beat shane?

                      MIGUEL COTTO

                      Who took on Paul Williams?

                      Antonio Margarito.

                      Who beat Margarito?

                      Shane Mosley.


                      See who's missing in the equation grustler. Thats right, p4p greatest of all time fraud jr. who took on ricky hatton,zab judah, & carlos baldomir at welter weight.


                      Cmon brah.
                      I would love to see Floyd fight anyone of them and hope he does.
                      The overall aspect of him being my favorite fighter spans throughout
                      his WHOLE CAREER, not just 1 division. Cotto/Mosley/Margarito
                      may have a better resume at 147 than Floyd but Floyd has had the
                      more accomplished and dominating career. Paul Williams resume is
                      not even better than Floyd's at 147? Beats Margarito than loses to
                      Quintana in his first title defense then wins the rematch and that's pretty much his 147 run. Cotto beats Quintana, Judah (So did Floyd), Beats
                      Mosley, fights Gomez (gift win), loses to Margarito, beats Jennings,
                      (Gift win). Margarito, beats Clottey (Good win) Beats Cintron, loses
                      to Paul, beats Cintron again, beats Cotto, Gets beat by Mosley and is
                      exposed as a cheater in the same night. Mosley and Floyd careers
                      are more impressive to me.

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