Reason why Pacquiao would not beat JMM on a 3rd fight

[MexicanBoxing1]

Threadstarter....the most effective Marquez has been against Pacquiao is not when he was counterpunching...it's when he actually went on the offensive.

If anything I saw Pacquiao landing more counters that 2nd fight than Marquez.

Its also a testament to how vastly Pacquiao improves every fight.

That knockdown in the 3rd round was a counter. When Pacquiao staggered Marquez in the 10th....that was a counter.

When Marquez had Pacquiao wobbled in the 2nd...that was not a counter...that was offense.

When Marquez had Pacquiao reeling in the 8th....and nearly scored a 10-8 round which would have made the fight a draw...was Marquez counterpunching?? No sir....he was on the offensive.

Moral of the of the story is that Marquez did not find the blueprint to defeat Pacquiao. Morales did...when he stayed on the offensive for 12 rds.

Please watch the fight and take your pacman's shirt when doing so.. It is funny because, ovbiously, most of the guys who think MP landed more punches are phillipines.. Just look at the punchmeter or whatever that hbo punch counting thing calls.. marquez landed more on both fights, the comentators even said it, and they love pacman..

[nj_evoixgsr]

Threadstarter....the most effective Marquez has been against Pacquiao is not when he was counterpunching...it's when he actually went on the offensive.

If anything I saw Pacquiao landing more counters that 2nd fight than Marquez.

Its also a testament to how vastly Pacquiao improves every fight.

That knockdown in the 3rd round was a counter. When Pacquiao staggered Marquez in the 10th....that was a counter.

When Marquez had Pacquiao wobbled in the 2nd...that was not a counter...that was offense.

When Marquez had Pacquiao reeling in the 8th....and nearly scored a 10-8 round which would have made the fight a draw...was Marquez counterpunching?? No sir....he was on the offensive.

Moral of the of the story is that Marquez did not find the blueprint to defeat Pacquiao. Morales did...when he stayed on the offensive for 12 rds.

as you can see what he did to hatton while he went on the offensive. he has progressed. he may want to rethink game plan next time around. i have nothing against marquez but his fans.... marquez is a great fighter but i hate hearing excuses. marquez does have a chance but as pacquiao has progressed into an ATG, beast, boxing god, p4pking. the smaller the chances and game plans must be outright something special.....though pacquiao can get hurt and hit. he has yet to hit the canvas in some time.

[MakeDamnSure]

goddamn, the manny pacquiao ****riding is incredible on this board. has it always been like this? or only after he knocked out that bum?

It's always been like this homie, It got worse after he KTFO that bum you're saying ...How much more if he beats Floyd, just imagine...

[Obusv477]

Obviously he looked better at a highger weight, everybody does... Have you had speak to boxer ever? they always have to drain a little before fights, not as DLH tho..

Look at hatton at the weight in, he looks slim, but thats the way it its dude, every boxer does that.

Of course everybody does, but thats not the issue here is it? The issue is if Pac was cutting too much weight to where it affects his performance. I say he definitely was. Pac weighs in at 145-148 at fight nights, coming from 130 thats not good. And if you consider the extenuating circumstances before that fight where Pac also looked like a ghost at the MAB weigh-ins, and of Pac's camp stating a move to 135 against Diaz...u can see why its logical to believe that Pac was weightdrained against JMM. Pac fought him at 130 for his belts, because if Pac's history is of any indication...that is what he aims for, legacy type fights.

Hey I like JMM,and I have to give him the benefit of the doubt to where he could conceivably beat Pac. But whatever advantage he had at 130 against Pac where he was competitive but took a beating for it....is just greatly diminished at these higher weights where Pac is just lookn his strongest and fastest. And thus, your argument that Pac cant beat JMM a third time is just plain silly and naive.

Fans will be fans I guess...

[MexicanBoxing1]

mexican. swine flu and die. your worthless.

your boy got knocked down 4x and you say he still won....if they fight again and he loses once again. you will make more excuses...

a fan is a fan and you live life on marquez's nuts.

if he was so skilled how the **** does he land on the canvas 4x and doesn't even knock him down once? cong**** he came back and won most of the rounds. but do understand the score card? wait. your mexican didn't get enough education......to do the math. /end argument

opinions are opinions. if you think marquez won....you lose anyway cause it will go down pacquiao won. 145 is still fighting at welterweight. 147 is limit.

Welterweight: Limit - 147 pounds
LIMIT

now do your research...... /class ends

seems that Mexicans did not cause that ****
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[baracuda]

how dumb are you? it was sarcasm brother, did you see the pacquioa-marquez fights? obviously marquez did not stop throwin punches

not as dumb as you!what makes you think that mine was'nt ?...******ass

[MexicanBoxing1]

as you can see what he did to hatton while he went on the offensive. he has progressed. he may want to rethink game plan next time around. i have nothing against marquez but his fans.... marquez is a great fighter but i hate hearing excuses. marquez does have a chance but as pacquiao has progressed into an ATG, beast, boxing god, p4pking. the smaller the chances and game plans must be outright something special.....though pacquiao can get hurt and hit. he has yet to hit the canvas in some time.

The thread purpose was to say that marquez win a 3rd fight in my opinion, but some where the thread took another way, maybe I did that, dont remember

[Floyd Sinclair]

At one point i would have agreed with this thread but Pacquiao has improved alot his past couple of fights. Hes got power in both hands and alotta speed. The only boxer that would beat manny is mayweather.

[MexicanBoxing1]

Good debate.. I guess that when I return this will be like 10 pages ahead, lol

[KRITKL]

Please watch the fight and take your pacman's shirt when doing so.. It is funny because, ovbiously, most of the guys who think MP landed more punches are phillipines.. Just look at the punchmeter or whatever that hbo punch counting thing calls.. marquez landed more on both fights, the comentators even said it, and they love pacman..

WTF, the post was pretty unbiased, you did the same thing at the begining of the thread picking parts JMM was doing good. Now this guy does the same for Pac and even times JMM got the better of Pac and he's a Pac hugger? Your either on JMM nuts or your 13 years old. It's ok to have an opinion but don't get butt hurt when someone doesn't agree with it. and when did you win when you land more punches.