Roach and Arum Protecting Pacman, handpicking his fighters.

[Ray*]

Everyone hands pick there own opponents, Everyone cherrypicks but Pacman V Oscar and Hatton was suppose to be a legitimate fight, I thought the Pacman/Hatton fight was a 50-50 fight TBH, But i never thought the same about the oscar fight because oscar was coming to 147, Making oscar come to 147 was a brilliant piece of negiotation by Team Pacman imo.

In boxing you need to get any sort of advantage on your side before you get in the ring.

[Kevin Jesus]

If you guys read between the lines when Joke Coach Roach speaks about Pacquiao's future opponents, you'll notice TS is saying the truth.

[baracuda]

If you guys read between the lines when Joke Coach Roach speaks about Pacquiao's future opponents, you'll notice TS is saying the truth.

if theres truth to this,floyd jr is the most guilty!

[Ray*]

If you guys read between the lines when Joke Coach Roach speaks about Pacquiao's future opponents, you'll notice TS is saying the truth.

Whats a TS????

[nujabes77]

Pacman is very good fighter and has every right to be the best P4P fighter. However, recent fights he's been placed on are somewhat overrated and should not be used as a scale to judge him as a fighter. In the last years he's only fought one good, "A", fighter and thats JMM. All the other were either past glory or were never considered "A" level fighters.

Pacman vs. :

Hatton(almost got TKO by Lazcano, unknown fighter), one-sided, whooping.
DLH(dehydrated), one sided.
D.Diaz(poor guy was a moving punching bag for Pacman), one-sided
Morales(last 2 fights, last one was no competition for Pacman)
Barrera(fill in) one-sided

It's evident Pacman trains so hard, that his fights become so easy, But at what point do you stop giving him easy fighters to truly test him and give the fans their money's worth.

Hand-Picking fighters can only go so far. Agree with or not?

Arum is talking about Chavez Jr. vs. Pacman, ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!!!

when he moved up in weight, he improved dramatically that's why he may look to be having easy oposition

de la hoya/ hatton/ diaz are great boxers, they just look amateurish to an atg

[Ray*]

when he moved up in weight, he improved dramatically that's why he may look to be having easy oposition

de la hoya/ hatton/ diaz are great boxers, they just look amateurish to an atg

No they're not, They're great names to have because they bring money/name to the table, Pacman gets more credit for beating JMM(Lesser name) than he does for beating both oscar and Hatton.

[Obusv477]

Conspiracy theory? Roach has admitted that he has to, and I quote, "look after my guy". Why does Manny have to fight WW's by making them drop down in weight and give Manny an advantage? All I'm saying is, either fight them at their own weight or don't fight them at all. He can fight guys at lightweight and LWW on an even playing field, so why not just fight them?

Those guys at ww are the ones calling Pac out. U talk about fighting them at a level playing field...thats what havn those guys droppin in weight is for, to even the playn field. U seem to forget its those guys that have physical advantages on Pac not the other way around.

[baracuda]

Whats a TS????

thread starter,just found that out too not long ago

[puromexicano198]

when he moved up in weight, he improved dramatically that's why he may look to be having easy oposition

de la hoya/ hatton/ diaz are great boxers, they just look amateurish to an atg

De La Hoya was and probably would be a good boxer within appropiate weight. 147 tier "C" fighter at 153-155 tier "A- to B+".

Hatton is a great boxer in Britain, but in the world he's good. I would say he's a Tier "B" boxer.

Diaz, Tier "C" boxer, just happened to get a belt in Chicago, his hometown, when he fought Morales. Which many believe Morales had won. Keep in mind a dehydrated and worn out Morales, really beat David Diaz. But because the fight was done on Chicago, Diaz's Hometown, they gave it to him. So when Roach and Arum found out, they enticed poor Diaz into a world of hurt for $400,000 , i believe. Which everyone knew he had no chance against Pacman. Arum, Roach, Team Pacqioua, and even PAcman himself knew it. To be honest he started his training late and was casual.

So those 3 names are irrelevant.

[puromexicano198]

I have said this in another thread. Arum and Roach are sculpting Pacquiao into this seemingly GOAT fighter. They are going about choosing his opponents very cleverly.

In Oscar they picked a guy with 3 losses in his last 6 fights, someone who had to drop down to a weight he's not made in nearly a decade, someone on the verge of retirement - all MAJOR advantages to Manny.

Next there's Hatton. A braver move by Roach and Arum, but again Roach knew Manny would have a BIG advantage in this fight. He knew Hatton has pretty much zero defence and is a fighter tailor made for Pac's style - hence his 3 round KO prediction.

Now he wants to go after the big WW, but again making them drop down in weight creating a bigger advantage for Manny. If Manny is not big enough to fight WW's then DON'T FIGHT THEM! It's totally unfair for WW's to have to come into a fight against a prime, healthy fighter, weight drained.

Arum and Roach are picking guys who are big names, but at the same time creating an advantage for Manny, which is just not fair IMO. If Manny can't fight these guys on an even playing field, then don't fight them, period. He should fight the guys at LWW and below if that's who he can have a fair fight against.

I agree. You hit it on the target.