Roach and Arum Protecting Pacman, handpicking his fighters.

[MANGLER]

This **** is gettin insane lately.

[Benny Leonard]

You guys kill me. You guys want Manny to go up to 147 were he is at a disadvantage. Their not telling Cotto or whom ever to go to 140 but to meet at the middle. Manny will be 4-5 pound above his best weight and cotto or whom ever is 3-4 pounds underneath their best weight. It sounds fair to me.

Ah, he looked GREAT against Oscar, right?

Where was that held?

Cotto looks like CRAP below 147.

Shouldn't you beat the Fighter while he is HEALTHY?

It's easier to move up in weight then it is down in weight when you struggled in the past below.

This is what Freddie likes:

[puromexicano198]

My problem is that the thread starter says the Manny has been protected but he picked 5 out of 6 of Manny's opponents, Barrera, Morales, JMM, ODLH and Hatton, to win the fight, which means the poster, himself, does not believe that Manny is superior to these fighters, thus making him a fighter who takes alot of risk and hardly being protected at all.

I believe Manny was only the favourite in 2 of these fights, against Diaz and Hatton. How could a protected fighter be an underdog, 4 out of 6 times?

It doesn't make sense.

Barrera's lst fight vs. Pacman, was a no-brainer.

DLH fight didn't make sense in two areas, 1.) He's leaving the sport whether he wins or loses. 2.) weight

[Alibata]

Ah, he looked GREAT against Oscar, right?

Where was that held?

Cotto looks like CRAP below 147.

Shouldn't you beat the Fighter while he is HEALTHY?

This is what Freddie likes:

Dude. I was expecting Manny to lose that fight. And you yourself have said Oscar was a shell, old and dehydrated. Oscar weighed in at 145. 147 is too big for Manny. If Manny is willing to compromise to fight at 144-145, cotto, floyd, mosely should compromise as well. At 147 cotto, mosely will have too much power for Manny. Ariza said Manny is more Powerful , faster, and more expolsive at 140 than he was for DLH because there is no added weight. All of em will lose something by gaining or losing weight so it is fairest to meet in the middle. Actually they only have to lose 2-3 pounds while Manny has to weigh in 4-5 lbs. heavier. When cotto rehydrates he is a beast. Pac will probably rehydrate and be the same size as a natural 140lber after weighing it at that weight..

[LA BAD BOY]

protecting from who.


PACMAN destroyed everyone left and right!

[mathed]

Dude. I was expecting Manny to lose that fight. And you yourself have said Oscar was a shell, old and dehydrated. Oscar weighed in at 145. 147 is too big for Manny. If Manny is willing to compromise to fight at 144-145, cotto, floyd, mosely should compromise as well. At 147 cotto, mosely will have too much power for Manny. Ariza said Manny is more Powerful , faster, and more expolsive at 140 than he was for DLH because there is no added weight. All of em will lose something by gaining or losing weight so it is fairest to meet in the middle. Actually they only have to lose 2-3 pounds while Manny has to weigh in 4-5 lbs. heavier. When cotto rehydrates he is a beast. Pac will probably rehydrate and be the same size as a natural 140lber after weighing it at that weight..

My thoughts exactly

[Pullcounter]

Pacman is very good fighter and has every right to be the best P4P fighter. However, recent fights he's been placed on are somewhat overrated and should not be used as a scale to judge him as a fighter. In the last years he's only fought one good, "A", fighter and thats JMM. All the other were either past glory or were never considered "A" level fighters.

Pacman vs. :

Hatton(almost got TKO by Lazcano, unknown fighter), one-sided, whooping.
DLH(dehydrated), one sided.
D.Diaz(poor guy was a moving punching bag for Pacman), one-sided
Morales(last 2 fights, last one was no competition for Pacman)
Barrera(fill in) one-sided

It's evident Pacman trains so hard, that his fights become so easy, But at what point do you stop giving him easy fighters to truly test him and give the fans their money's worth.

Hand-Picking fighters can only go so far. Agree with or not?

Arum is talking about Chavez Jr. vs. Pacman, ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!!!

hatton took floyd 10 rounds to KO, manny did it in 2.

floyd got a SD against dlh, pac made him quit and retire and dlh was the heavy betting favorite.

if you fail to accept that pac is something special that will not come along again you should just stop watching boxing right now.

[Alibata]

My thoughts exactly

Yeah no matter what weight Manny weighs in at, he is still basically a jr. welter. If they fight at 147 it will be a jr. welter vs. a full blown welter, which is not fair. maybe he really is superman because everyone conciously or subconciously make it out to be that way.

[fightingfigs]

Pacman is very good fighter and has every right to be the best P4P fighter. However, recent fights he's been placed on are somewhat overrated and should not be used as a scale to judge him as a fighter. In the last years he's only fought one good, "A", fighter and thats JMM. All the other were either past glory or were never considered "A" level fighters.

Pacman vs. :

Hatton(almost got TKO by Lazcano, unknown fighter), one-sided, whooping.
DLH(dehydrated), one sided.
D.Diaz(poor guy was a moving punching bag for Pacman), one-sided
Morales(last 2 fights, last one was no competition for Pacman)
Barrera(fill in) one-sided

It's evident Pacman trains so hard, that his fights become so easy, But at what point do you stop giving him easy fighters to truly test him and give the fans their money's worth.

Hand-Picking fighters can only go so far. Agree with or not?

Arum is talking about Chavez Jr. vs. Pacman, ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!!!

ur ******ed they already have Miguel Cotto in mind then floyd after that. I really dont htink Floyd is anything special but Miguel Cotto has defeated shane mosley and showed how dangerous he can be

[fightingfigs]

ur ******ed they already have Miguel Cotto in mind then floyd after that. I really dont htink Floyd is anything special but Miguel Cotto has defeated shane mosley and showed how dangerous he can be

on top of that he fought marquez twice already how is that protecting?