Roach and Arum Protecting Pacman, handpicking his fighters.

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  • Eaner0919
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    #21
    Originally posted by puromexicano198
    Saying it is one thing, we'll see though. I never blamed Pacman, like he said, he boxes and his promoters pick the fighters. Personally I think he does a great job training before the match, that's why he performs so well during one.

    It's just the quality of fighters he's put up against, who happen to have belts.
    but even if your theory is that he is fighting handpicked fighters here are the handpicked fighters in a different light

    Hatton: still regarded as the best 140lb fight in the world, fighting in a weight class where he is undefeated, having only lost to the best fighter in the world.

    DLH- NO ONE could have predicted he would have came in as he did.

    Diaz- agree with you on this IMO Manny took the easiest lightweight champ but since he is a Top Rank fighter it made the most sense

    Morales- NO ONE thought that Morales was done in the rematch. In fact, that fight was even when Manny got to him so it's not like Terrible made a poor accounting for himself. The third fight came out of necessity sicne they were 1-1 in their previous two fights

    Barrera- I agree a bit but remember though this was the time when GBP and TR were trying to make things work between promoters and once they came to an understanding about Manny's promotional ties this is the first fight that came to mind.

    so while yes two fights IMO weren't necessary there are reasonings behind them but the others were far from being handpicked

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    • puromexicano198
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      #22
      Originally posted by koboy
      And let me guess, you went against Pacquiao in all these fights which destroys your post of him being protected.
      Against Barrera, last fight, I knew he wasn't going to win. Based off of his last performance against Pacman. That's why he fought really reserved, to not get hurt against Pacman.

      Against D. Daiz, Everyone who follows boxing knew before the fight ever happened that this was going to be a major whooping on Diaz. No Doubt about it. They picked him not because he was a competition, picked him cause he had a belt. It wasn't a fight it was a whooping, just to add a belt to Pacman. Roach and Arum admitted to this before the fight, that it was going to be one-sided, but still tried to give Diaz some weight by saying he was a real tough fighter, LAME AND WEAK.

      Against DLH, I thought DLH was going to whoop him. But in the back of my mind that wasn't common sense from a money making business perspective. You see why would a boxer who's out the door beat a boxer who is rising to the top. That doesn't make any sense.

      Against Hatton, I knew he was going to lose. Why? He was demoralized after PBF, almost got KTOed by Lazcano, unknown guy from Houston. His unlaced boots saved him, by giving him time to recover. The ref gave him plenty of time, by the way it was done in England, hmmmm. He's great boxer in England but against Elite fighters like PAcman he's not in the same category.

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      • puromexicano198
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        #23
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i
        Your name alone makes this post kinda worthless.
        The initials on your messages, control your thinking, makes you subjective. Don't get so emotional, with my name. Read and breath. Think objectively. I might help.

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        • koboy
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          #24
          Originally posted by puromexicano198

          Against Hatton, I knew he was going to lose. Why? He was demoralized after PBF, almost got KTOed by Lazcano, unknown guy from Houston.
          You sure? Not according to your post:

          "hatton IMO is mentally stronger last 3 fights. loss by tko, then he wins a decisions and then a TKO over Malignini"

          "Hatton is the most recent to taste a loss. Then a decision and then a TKO against Malignini. He doesnt wan to lose again."

          "keep in mind Hatton's been training with Mayweather Sr. for a good while."

          How quickly you turn. Hatton just lost a great fan.

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          • puromexicano198
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            #25
            Originally posted by koboy
            You sure? Not according to your post:

            "hatton IMO is mentally stronger last 3 fights. loss by tko, then he wins a decisions and then a TKO over Malignini"

            "Hatton is the most recent to taste a loss. Then a decision and then a TKO against Malignini. He doesnt wan to lose again."

            "keep in mind Hatton's been training with Mayweather Sr. for a good while."

            How quickly you turn. Hatton just lost a great fan.
            Obviuosly I was wrong.

            Both sides can be argued before the fight and even after.

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            • koboy
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              #26
              Originally posted by puromexicano198
              Obviuosly I was wrong.

              Both sides can be argued before the fight and even after.
              I'm not arguing about you picking the losing fighter, I'm just pointing out how you forgot so conveniently that you went for Hatton to prove your point? You sound like a liar now. Here's another one.

              "Split decision if Hatton doesnt fight the way Jaun Diaz fought against JMM."

              Doesn't sound like Hatton is too demoralized.

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              • puromexicano198
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                #27
                Originally posted by 2501
                we dont believe you. you need more people.
                more people??

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                • S A M U R A I
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by puromexicano198
                  The initials on your messages, control your thinking, makes you subjective. Don't get so emotional, with my name. Read and breath. Think objectively. I might help.
                  Pardon?



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                  • koboy
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by puromexicano198
                    Against Barrera, last fight, I knew he wasn't going to win.
                    In your previous post you mentioned the 1st Barrera fight, which I'm sure you picked MAB to win, but above you switched to the 2nd fight. Why?

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                    • THE REED
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      we dont believe you. you need more people.
                      Rocafella, student of the game.

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