WOW!! Floyd gets ripped a new ******.

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Don't know whot hat guy is, but do people even read this Nonesense

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Floyd is a phenomenal talent in the ring, but I do agree he deliberately strayed away from the main players at 147.

How many fights did he have at 147? 4 fights. He fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir(Judah's Conquerer) and Hatton, He fought Oscar at Oscar's weight 154. At the time when he entered 147 Judah was King. Judah lossed to Baldomir so he beat Judah then he beat Baldomir. He went up in weight to fight Oscar for mega bucks (honestly can you blame him?) Came back down to fight a 43-0 Hatton (another big $ fight) At this time everyone wanted to see Floyd fight Cotto or Margarito. He then was supposed to fight Oscar again. (1st bout ended in SD) This time for even bigger bucks but something happened and the fight got cancelled. Shortly after that he decided to retire. My thoughts on this was that he has hand issues and a fighter can't go to work if his tools (hands) are bad. Just ask Paulie or Calzaghe.

Yeah say what you want maybe we didn't see him against Cotto. Mosley beat Margarito so that leaves me to believe that Floyd probably would have did much of the same that Mosley did. Would have been like Floyd verses a bigger Baldomir. The one fight we were really depribed of seeing was Cotto vs Floyd in my book. Truth is we still might get that you never know. Say what you want about Floyd but he still is a tremendous fighter with tons of talent. The problem is we haven't seen him tested or at least not the way we want to see him tested....Lefty

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a good read but I disagree with it. most ppl think that pacquiao will beat mayweather after what pac did to hatton so that will be a good fight for mayweather.

and mayweather isn't a true welterweight, he is just fighting at that weight. you have to remember, he only moved up that high to get a fight with oscar. ppl say that Hatton was bigger than mayweather which is ridiculous because hatton started his career at 140 while mayweather started at 130 and hatton gets up to 185 between fights.

while I agree with some points in the article, I think most of the article is just rooted in hate which spins things in a bias percpective.

Please stop this argument, it is the worst one out there. If Floyd was really a JWW, he wouldn't be fighting JMM at a catchweight and he would have fought Ricky for the lineal 140 on title. If you think he is a 140lber the he a 140lber then he is the biggest fraud of all time because you are admitting he uses weight classes to his advantage to make his fights easier.

[Eaner0919]

I think the problem with Floyd's run at 147 and the people who are defending it is that while yes just about all the fighters proposed to be challenges to Floyd and subsequently lost Floyd wasn't the man to do it. Each fighter, yes even Crytron, Floyd wasn't the one who dispatched them so while yes every Floyd fan can make a case that it wouldn't have mattered because lesser fighters beat them it would been nice to see Floyd be the one to do it rather than talk about how he could have done it easier

[Walt Liquor]

How many fights did he have at 147? 4 fights. He fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir(Judah's Conquerer) and Hatton, He fought Oscar at Oscar's weight 154. At the time when he entered 147 Judah was King. Judah lossed to Baldomir so he beat Judah then he beat Baldomir. He went up in weight to fight Oscar for mega bucks (honestly can you blame him?) Came back down to fight a 43-0 Hatton (another big $ fight) At this time everyone wanted to see Floyd fight Cotto or Margarito. He then was supposed to fight Oscar again. (1st bout ended in SD) This time for even bigger bucks but something happened and the fight got cancelled. Shortly after that he decided to retire. My thoughts on this was that he has hand issues and a fighter can't go to work if his tools (hands) are bad. Just ask Paulie or Calzaghe.

Yeah say what you want maybe we didn'
t see him against Cotto. Mosley beat Margarito so that leaves me to believe that Floyd probably would have did much of the same that Mosley did. Would have been like Floyd verses a bigger Baldomir. The one fight we were really depribed of seeing was Cotto vs Floyd in my book. Truth is we still might get that you never know. Say what you want about Floyd but he still is a tremendous fighter with tons of talent. The problem is we haven't seen him tested or at least not the way we want to see him tested....Lefty

This is the thing lefty, at 147+ how good were his performances? Can we agree that Sharmba was a shell of himself after Tszyu was done with him? So that fight doesn't enhance Floyd's legacy. Zab's speed was definitely bothering Floyd untill he fell apart like he always does when he doesn't ko his opponent or have a much less talented fighter across from him. At least the fight was somewhat entertaining. The Baldomir fight was sooooo boring it was boo'd. The Oscar fight really was pathetic, neither guy fought like a champ. It was boring as well. HAtton was semi-entertaining, with a great finish for Floyd on a charging in guy with short arms. Not the resume of a #1 pfp kinda guy. Now compare with Manny, bhops, shane and jmm's last 5 fights. Those guys fight like real champs. Sure each one has some weak spots but as a body of work, they are far more impressive than floyd's performances. And about your other post, the reason why manny gets more props for beating Hatton is cuz he came from 106 AND cuz he fought Hatton at his proven best weight.
Floyd is a very good fighter based on his work at 130-5 seven years ago.nothing since

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

This is the thing lefty, at 147+ how good were his performances? Can we agree that Sharmba was a shell of himself after Tszyu was done with him? So that fight doesn't enhance Floyd's legacy. Zab's speed was definitely bothering Floyd untill he fell apart like he always does when he doesn't ko his opponent or have a much less talented fighter across from him. At least the fight was somewhat entertaining. The Baldomir fight was sooooo boring it was boo'd. The Oscar fight really was pathetic, neither guy fought like a champ. It was boring as well. HAtton was semi-entertaining, with a great finish for Floyd on a charging in guy with short arms. Not the resume of a #1 pfp kinda guy. Now compare with Manny, bhops, shane and jmm's last 5 fights. Those guys fight like real champs. Sure each one has some weak spots but as a body of work, they are far more impressive than floyd's performances. And about your other post, the reason why manny gets more props for beating Hatton is cuz he came from 106 AND cuz he fought Hatton at his proven best weight.
Floyd is a very good fighter based on his work at 130-5 seven years ago.nothing since

Good post and a valid point of view. I still think that what I said holds true he made a name for him self at 130-135 and then capitalized on it at a higher weight much like manny is doing now. Just that people see Manny as a muich more exciting ticket and he didn't make all of his battles look so easy in the past. Floyd is a technician and skilled boxer Manny is a machine he goes fot he kill he don;t sit back and try to outpoint you. There are those who make the fight and those who counter punch. Boxing is like dancing someone has got to lead right? Floyd's style may be boring I will give you that. But to try to take away the fact the man has extreme talent by calling him a chicken and a ducker is obsurd. You don't always get what you want in life and money makes the world go around. If Floyd had bigger money opportunities at the time he was at 147 at the time he would have took them. He got what 20-25 Million to fight Oscar at 154 as proposed to the 4-8 million Arum offered him to fight Margarito? He got what the same 15-25 Million to fight Hatton as proposed to 8-12 Millon to fight Cotto? I may not have the exact figures but you get the idea right? I worjk 40 hours a week spread out over 5 days a week. lets say I make 100K a year right? I have to travle 1 to 1 1/2 hours a day to get to work. if someone offered me a workl at home job for the same or more money I would jump out of my seat and hurt my back to take it. it is what it is..Let us just say Money May is motivated by the fact his name is Money May...h motivated by forming a legacy of the best fighter ever not saying that he couldn't hold claim to that title but he would have to actually work really hard for it. I mean look at Joe Louis he was probably the best HW ever he died broke right? MONEY MAY......He defintely lives up to his name....Lefty

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LoTierzo's articeles are trash, I don't need to read this one...

I read him for years, until I realized about 7 years ago, he cannot get past his personal biases (back then it was Roy Jones Jr.)

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Please stop this argument, it is the worst one out there. If Floyd was really a JWW, he wouldn't be fighting JMM at a catchweight and he would have fought Ricky for the lineal 140 on title. If you think he is a 140lber the he a 140lber then he is the biggest fraud of all time because you are admitting he uses weight classes to his advantage to make his fights easier.

huh? that doesn't make sense.

but anyways, if you really think 7 lbs really makes that much of a difference than you are buying into the scam that the belt organizations have set up. weight classes weren't put in to make fights more fair, they were put in so the alphabelt organizations could make more money off of royalties by creating more champions.

the only important physical attributes in a BOXING match is height and reach IMO. ppl thought that hatton was going to over power pacquiao because he was "naturally bigger" but at the end, height and reach was the only important factor.

truth is, JMM is VERY comparable to mayweather in the height and reach department. weight wont' do much in the ring because it isn't a wrestling match. its a fair fight no matter what anyone says.

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it's what i've been saying about floyd for a long time now.........

nuthuggers call it hate, boxing fans call it truth, and people with their eyes open know it's all a sham..................

everyone likes to call out hopkins for fighting smaller guys, when all he did was hold down his weight for 12 years at the same weight, waiting for all the guys who dropped down in the smaller divisions to move up to their natural to fight. hopkins never once calling himself the greatest of all time, yet people ridicule him like that is all that comes out his mouth, but floyd does it and hes' great, well, he's not, and the article has been saying the same **** i've said for a while now.

floyd can not call himself the greatest without fighting the top competition, when all he has done is hand pick his opponents and avoid real fights.........

and just like the article said, i dont' think that floyd loses to those guys, but we'll never know if he doesn't fight them, AND I'M SURE AS HELL NOT GOING TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT OR HIS FANS WORD, THAT **** HAS TO BE PROVEN.

calling yourself great is not how you become great, a chef doesn't get called a chef until his peers recognize him as THE CHEF, you don't become great in boxing by avoiding the real fights that are there to be made. floyd isnt great, he has the potential of being great, he just has to prove it, and fighting guys that he has every advantage over isnt a part of making that happen.............


great article, i say if you dispute that article and don't like what is being said, i think that you might either have floyds nuts covering your eyes, or you've been easily brainwashed, or to the extreme, you've drank too much of his man juice kool aid.................

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great article, i say if you dispute that article and don't like what is being said, i think that you might either have floyds nuts covering your eyes, or you've been easily brainwashed, or to the extreme, you've drank too much of his man juice kool aid.................

This is unbelievably immature.