WOW!! Floyd gets ripped a new ******.

[QUISQUEYA]

Ring magazine- Floyd is not top 25 all time.

And what is your point there? I applaud your arbitrariness.

Did Ring have him on the P4P list for ten consecutive years? Did they have him at the top for three years?

side note; My eyes are failing. Help a brotha out with a darker font.

[Vasyl’s dad]

YOU WIN THE "MOST HATE OF THE DaY AWARD" FOR HAVING AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF HATE SPEWED WITH A FEW FACTS THAT WERE NOT ACTUALLY FACT SUCH AS THE SHANE INCIDENT.


GOOD JOB ON DRINKING ALL THAT HATERADE... "IS IT IN YOU?" YES IT IS MY SON.. YES IT IS!!!

People are already starting to overlook the new money guy.


Pac is already becoming a legend,

everything Floyd wants to be, but doesn't have the balls to do.


Go cry about it.

[-Antonio-]

If Floyd wanted to fight Mosley he would have. Shane and Golden Boy made him and offer to fight. And you cant tell me Mosley is not going to make Floyd more money than Marquez. The fact remains that Floyd wants no part of a top Welterweight. That's all there is to it.

On the subject of a Pacquiao fight. He would get loads of credit from me, and he should from everyone else. The size difference is a few pounds at worst. Although I'd still like to see it at a catchweight just to eliminate all doubts.

[DA1CATAS]

I'll laugh.... Straight to the bank wit this.. Ha ha ha ha.. Huh huh ..ha ha ha ha... Lol.. Sorry had to lay that verse...

But anyway.. Don't be hurt man just my opinion.. Peaceums

[Vasyl’s dad]

And what is your point there? I applaud your arbitrariness.

Did Ring have him on the P4P list for ten consecutive years? Did they have him at the top for three years?

side note; My eyes are failing. Help a brotha out with a darker font.

Point is, I can quote Ring magazine as well, and it won't look so favorable on Mayweather.

He had his chance to make a huge impact on the sport, the talent, the marketing machine, the backing of the writers as you've so eloquently pointed out, the help of the prior face of the sport, DLH.

But he thought it would be better to gloss over himself time and time again, rather than give back to the sport and the fans who pay for his food by avoiding the best possible matchups, matchups that people wanted to see.


Its all backfiring now though.

Manny is now a legend, and Floyd just has a million bucks stashed in his drawer somewhere.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Here's a question, though:

Why is it that you are the only one that sees that?

Here's what i'm saying. You have a full time job. You are busy. You do not follow boxing full-time. Right? But the writers and experts DO follow full-time. The guys at Ring magazine live, sleep and breathe boxing. And they voted FMJ as the #1 in the sport. Not at 130. Post 130. They voted him p4p #1 for his work at 140 and up.

Why is it so easy for YOU to see what a ***** he is....but, meanwhile, the experts are busy putting him on p4p and ATG lists.

Please explain.

People at the magazines are biased and are in a position to profit by what it is they write. They are paid for their opinion and fans watch and follow the sport for the love of it. That is the true difference when it comes to stories and ratings. The magazines are influenced by promoters and money. Like anything else in the world money talks and bullish walks. They need to sell magazines and promoters needs big fights. With all that being said Floyd is not what the haters are saying 100% and he is not what the nut huggers are saying 100%. Unfortunately boxing is a performance related business not like baseball or football or basket ball where you can have a bad night and come back in a day or 2. You have a bad night in boxing you get KTFO or beat down for 10-12 rounds. You don't get a chance to come right back and discredit the nay sayers. There is no one on your team. All this Team Hatton and Team PAcquiao Team MAyweather all fine and dandy but when you leave the corner and the bell rings it is you and your opponent. That's it..

Sure Floyd hasn't been the most exciting fighter he hasn't fought everyone the fans want him to fight. he proved himself at lower weight classes and like everyone else he stepped up to make money. Manny isn't fighting for titles right now he is fighting for BIG $$$. Sure he got more credit for beating Hatton then Floyd and why? Because he started fighting at 106lbs and Floyd started at what 130lb. Does it really matter on fight night if you started at 106 or 130 when you are fighting at 140lbs? Honestly and truly no matter how you look at it fighters job is too fight and the promoters and the manager’s job is to make the fights.

Honestly a fighters people know what is going to murder for their fighters style and lots of times you will hear why did they put him in there with so and so they should have known he was going to give him troubles. I personally think Floyd is a damn good fighter who could be very great but every fighter needs that one fight so he can show us just how great he truly is. Floyd hasn't been in that one fight yet. There is no Leonard, hagler, Duran, Hearns without the opposition. Roy Jones one of the most talented fighters in the past 2 decades P4P probably the reason P4P was created to just judge truly how good he was. DAMN shame he never had true competition in his weight class only in his later years did he step up and fight big names. I see the same in Floyd he has lived off his name alone. He can sell enough tickets off the Mayweather express without getting in there with a truly dangerous opponent. Eventually that time period runs dry. You get alittel older and other fighters come on and absorb some of that fan base and you need to get in there with a big name and a big time fighter to make that money. You need to take more risks. People get tired of seeing mismatched main events and you easing you way to victory. There are 3 sides to every story your mine and the truth...the truth about Money Mayweather is that he is true to his name. Let’s see if this time around he is true to his fans and his critics and give them a reason to fight even harder against those haters. ....Lefty

[DrewWoodside]

Floyd Mayweather: He IS A Great Manager
By Frank Lotierzo


Well he did it, that's right Floyd "I won't fight in my division" Mayweather Jr. provided his own version of "Shock and Awe" before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. In a press-conference the afternoon of the fight, Mayweather Jr. 39-0 (25 KOs) announced that he's coming out of retirement and will be fighting Juan Manuel Marquez 50-4-1 (37 KOs) who fought as a featherweight until March of 2008, this coming July.

If there is one boxing fan alive who ever believed that Mayweather was really retired for good, they better go back to watching reruns on the ScFi channel. The truth is Floyd Mayweather was never retired, nor did he ever let himself get out of shape. Incidentally, the second part of that is commendable. The first part is a joke. All Floyd has been doing is waiting around for the guys in his "real" division to either get old (Shane Mosley) lose (Miguel Cotto), get beat up (Antonio Margarito) outgrow the division (Paul Williams) and fall off the radar (Kermit Cintron).

How long are boxing fans going to be made a fool of by this manager/fighter? I have no problem with a fighter trying to make as much money with the least risk possible, to a degree. Joe Frazier has the best saying I've ever heard regarding the boxing business. It goes, "Boxing is the only sport where you get your brains shook, your money took, and your name in the undertaker’s book." Having said that, great fighters, I mean all-time great fighters, something I'm not convinced Floyd Mayweather Jr. is, seek out fights with other great fighters their size.

You'd think Mayweather would see that to a degree Roy Jones, who was a greater and more skilled fighter than him, suffers today from the perception of not always seeking fights that offered the biggest challenge. To this day Roy continues to fight to keep fans from forgetting who he was. Yeah, in a way we "Musta Forgot." Which is what happens when you fight too many Clinton Woods.’

I'm not saying Mayweather can't beat Mosley, Cotto or Margarito. However, I can't say that he can. I also know how the game works and what he's doing. In fact if he said, " I'm fighting just to make the most money with the least risk so I can retire undefeated," I'd have a ton more respect for him. Instead he tells us how great he is, and sadly more than a few fans buy his BS.

Great? Maybe. I think outstanding is more the case. It's a joke saying that he's in the same class as Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns or Roberto Duran, just to name a few. In fact, Floyd has to pay his way into the gym to watch them wrap their hands as far as I'm concerned. Look at the list of who's who that they fought, compared to Mayweather.
Floyd actually has had more name fighters to fight than Roy Jones did during his prime. Does it take much imagination to wonder what Mayweather's record would be if he fought Shane Mosley's resume? Comparing quality of opposition between Mosley and Mayweather is like comparing hand speed between Butterbean and Larry Holmes.

In reality, Floyd Mayweather Jr. isn't even undefeated. At least not in the ring. That's right, he lost the first meeting with Jose Luis Castillo 115-113. Even HBO house judge Harold Lederman scored the fight 7-5 in rounds for Castillo. Yep, Mayweather's network and their own judge had the fight 5-5 in rounds after 10. Lederman then correctly scored the 11th and 12th for Castillo, sealing the fight for his opponent. Mayweather clearly won the rematch, but the point is boxing fans have seen Mayweather bettered in the ring at least once.

I don't want to hear this baloney about Mayweather not being a true welterweight. That's just another excuse to keep Floyd from tangling with the guys in his division. Yeah, he's not a welterweight, but Marquez has to come up to 144 so Floyd has another opponent with a big name. Didn't Mosley turn pro at 135, just five pounds heavier than Mayweather was when he turned pro? As far as Mayweather being seen as some kind of a warrior by agreeing to fight Marquez, if it comes off, and then Pacquiao, I just don't see it.

I have no doubt that boxing fans will flock to Mayweather and want to attack those that expose him for who he really is. Be my guest, let him rip you off and then give you a lousy one-sided fight. Does it mean anything that when he beats Marquez he's beating a guy much smaller than him, who Pacquiao had down three times in the first round back in 2004. Does it say anything that he didn't even make Oscar De La Hoya look bad and actually lost rounds to him, then Pacquiao dominated Oscar and retired him. Oh, and Shane Mosley beat Oscar more convincingly than Mayweather did back in June of 2000. Yet somehow everybody goes crazy over Mayweather. Why I'll never understand. Can boxing fans be that starved to see a great fighter, so much so that they have to manufacture one?

I'm not saying Floyd Mayweather Jr. doesn't posses a phenomenal skill set, because he does. In the ring he's a much smarter fighter than he gets credit for. He's terrific fundamentally and never beats himself. More than that, he's mentally tougher in the ring than he is credited for being. That said, he's not creative offensively nor does he exhibit a varied attack. His defense is outstanding, but that's more a case of him knowing when to punch and break off the exchanges. The problem is, I want to see him in there with another outstanding/great fighter his size who isn't old or on a steep decline.

At the press conference announcing his return Mayweather said, "I am not wasting any time with a tune-up fight. I'm going straight to the top. Marquez called me out immediately after his victory over Juan Diaz in February and now he gets his wish. What he is going to find out is that you should be careful what you wish for." Yeah Floyd, you're going to the top alright. The top of the lightweight division versus a fighter who is 2-0 as a lightweight. The only problem with that is, you're a welterweight. If nothing else, Mayweather has a little comedian in him. Although he's not nearly as funny as his father.

I guess he never heard Mosley, Cotto, Margarito or Williams call him out. I know I sure have. Floyd Mayweather Jr. in my opinion is very transparent in the con he's pulling off. Quite successfully I might add. Oh, and if anyone out there believes that the 37-year-old Mosley declined to fight Mayweather previously or fears him in any way, next you'll try and convince me New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is a choker too. Although, I do expect Mayweather to fight Mosley eventually, Shane’s just not old enough yet.

One more time, I'd have no problem giving Floyd Mayweather Jr. his props if he earned them the way past great fighters have, but he hasn't. He's definitely a great manager and no one can dispute that. Mayweather Jr. may be great, he just won't let us find out! And if he thinks beating Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao will change that, I say only in his mind. As great as they are, they are nowhere near as tough and dangerous to Mayweather as Mosley, Cotto and Margarito.

Pacquiao-Hatton & Mayweather:

The second round knockout scored by Manny Pacquiao over Ricky Hatton this past weekend was nothing short of breath-taking. There's no question about it, whether or not he beats Mayweather makes no difference, Manny Pacquiao is an all-time great pound for pound fighter. End of story.

On the other hand, Mayweather needs to beat more than just Pacquiao to have the same said of him......Early prediction, I think Floyd has the style advantage over Manny and believe when they fight, yes, I said when, Mayweather will win a decision victory. As he should, he's clearly the bigger fighter and equally skilled.

I hope this is a good read!

[TRAVI$]

Floyd is a phenomenal talent in the ring, but I do agree he deliberately strayed away from the main players at 147.

[Luis12]

Point is, I can quote Ring magazine as well, and it won't look so favorable on Mayweather.

He had his chance to make a huge impact on the sport, the talent, the marketing machine, the backing of the writers as you've so eloquently pointed out, the help of the prior face of the sport, DLH.

But he thought it would be better to gloss over himself time and time again, rather than give back to the sport and the fans who pay for his food by avoiding the best possible matchups, matchups that people wanted to see.


Its all backfiring now though.

Manny is now a legend, and Floyd just has a million bucks stashed in his drawer somewhere.

agreed 100%. it's a shame see all those skills wasted in B and C fighters

[-Swizzy-]

a good read but I disagree with it. most ppl think that pacquiao will beat mayweather after what pac did to hatton so that will be a good fight for mayweather.

and mayweather isn't a true welterweight, he is just fighting at that weight. you have to remember, he only moved up that high to get a fight with oscar. ppl say that Hatton was bigger than mayweather which is ridiculous because hatton started his career at 140 while mayweather started at 130 and hatton gets up to 185 between fights.

while I agree with some points in the article, I think most of the article is just rooted in hate which spins things in a bias percpective.