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  • Naldo
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    #31
    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
    I know you have a man crush on Mayweather and he may have the better atributes that JMM but he's not the better pure boxer. IM I think JMM is a genius in the ring and nobody in boxing today is a better PURE boxer.

    Faster, stronger, quicker...yes but not the better boxer. Mayweather is a natural athlete but make no mistake about it, Pacman CAN beat Mayweather and I think it will be a great fight. It has to happen.
    You sound like a damn fool, how is marquez a better pure boxer than mayweather who was taught to box before he could even read and write

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Don.
      Hes not slower....its just how he fights...at the higher werights...

      Why would he string Combos togethre aginst GIANTS like Oscar and Baldi.....who both weighed over 160 pounds fight night while Floyd was 147.

      At 140 pounds Floyd is blazing........
      Maybe......I hope you are right for his sake.


      That version of Floyd right there would take Pac for sure.


      All I'm saying now is, let's wait and see where he is at.

      I also think it would be a great thing to have the media and everybody count him out to light a fire under his ass. He can't come into a fight just to pull out a victory; he has to want it and make a statement. He needs to have fun again.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        Zab would be great sparring and is a must.

        Who else is a southpaw out there?

        Maybe he could get Spinks, Ortiz..........

        But of course, have them all use heavy pressure since they can keep rotating sparring partners so they don't have to worry about pacing themselves.
        Yeah hes been doing that in the past...

        Having 12 round sparring matches with a diffrent fighter each round.....

        Sick.

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        • Bobby Shaw
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Don.
          Manny struggled with JMM twice....and was countered rather easily.

          JMM a slick counter puncher gives Manny troubles everytime....

          Now factor in this...Everything JMM does...Mayweather does better.

          Mayweather is taller...longer...stronger..faster....has better defense..has better reflexes.....is younger.....hits harder..has a better chin....is harder to hit....has better agility and foot speed..not to mention the power and speed May shos at 140 pounds......and is a smarter fighter who wont get into trading matches or pissing contests in the boxing ring.

          How does Manny beat a guy who essentially was created to beat a guy like him everytime?

          Please explain.
          Manny will try to up his punch out put.As he comes in he will be countered and will have to go back to the drawing board.Floyd wins by KO

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          • Tankster
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            #35
            Originally posted by The Don.
            Mayweather is undefeated vs. Every southpaw hes ever faced....and KOd all of them except Judah who low blowed his way out of a knockout loss.

            Mayweathers LOVES presuure fighters....easy to time...easy to hit...

            Judah was faster then Floyd....at 147.....

            Pac wont be faster then Floyd at 140 pounds...nor will he hit harder.
            They said this before the hatton fight look what happened? Pacquiao hits very hard compare hattons fight against both you will see that you are blinded by your love with floyd. Mayweather can definitely beat pacquio by his smart boxing. But i will say this if floyd plays with the ropes against pac with that shoulder roll and all. He will be seriously hurt that I guarantee. Pacquiao is fast, strong and very unpredictable thats what special about him.

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            • trainhard_187
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              #36
              Lets not forget the defense less pressure fighter in Hatton gave Floyd problems in the early rounds though. What more in Pacquiao who has defense, fast hands, power, combos, angles, DAMN MAKE THIS FIGHT HAPPEN ALREADY on December 25 a Christmas gift for all fans..

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              • boxingsmash69
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                #37
                what about the "judges" factor?

                i agree, mayweather can do everything jmm can do, but better. he's even faster/stronger/younger than jmm.

                but one thing i favor JMM over Mayweather, is the punch output.

                in my opinion, i think JMM HAD to step up his offense game against pac, to either keep Pac off of him, and/or impress the judges by not falling too far behind in the punch output category, even if he is successfully countering.

                when JMM counters, he tends to punch back with combos. that can be eye catching to the judges. when Mayweather counters, he usually counters with one punch, or two punches.

                i'm just saying, the difference in offense can be a factor in this fight. there is a chance that the judges will award the fight to the guy who threw many more punches, than to the guy who countered all day. what if, after the fight, Pac earns a decision, but Floyd complains, saying he gave Pac a boxing lesson? floyd will need to step up his offense game, to avoid that.


                also, the Judah/Mayweather fight. Judah was clearly winning the first 4 rounds. then the usual happened, mental breakdown of judah, and also the adjustment that Mayweather probably made. Like Judah, Pac is a fast handed southpaw, with decent/good power. but Pac is mountains above Judah in the mentality/stamina department, at least.


                either way, i think i'm still going with Floyd by close UD. 7 rounds to 5.
                Last edited by boxingsmash69; 05-04-2009, 04:12 PM.

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                • DE100
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                  #38
                  Pac does stand a chance, but people that look at Pac's wins over Hatton and Oscar to determine that he does dont know what they are talking about. Please assess what Oscar and Hatton have done in the past 2 years and more importantly the way they fought, and tell me what makes anyone refer to them on why Pac will win over Mayweather.
                  Last edited by DE100; 05-04-2009, 04:11 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by trainhard_187
                    Lets not forget the defense less pressure fighter in Hatton gave Floyd problems in the early rounds though. What more in Pacquiao who has defense, fast hands, power, combos, angles, DAMN MAKE THIS FIGHT HAPPEN ALREADY on December 25 a Christmas gift for all fans..
                    December 26th(saturday)

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