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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    Originally posted by boxasmash
    he's improved since marquez, mayweather nearly got koed by corley and dropped by judah.

    mayweather hates pressure fighters and southpaws with speed. what is manny?
    Freddie Roach also mentioned that they will use heavy pressure on Floyd to test how much stamina he really has. I think more so now than ever since at 130-140, I don't think it mattered to Floyd because he could just sit there and take it by rolling with it all and once you slowed down even a bit, he countered and attacked.

    Pac's not only on top of his game, he is more active, younger, and somehow seems to be getting bigger, stronger, faster, and more powerful (unless that is over-blown) at this stage of his career. Jim Rome just touched on this moments ago on his show...so I had to put that in there.

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      #12
      Originally posted by boxasmash
      he's improved since marquez, mayweather nearly got koed by corley and dropped by judah.

      mayweather hates pressure fighters and southpaws with speed. what is manny?
      So Mayweather hasn't improved since Corley and Judah? And Judah is bigger and stronger than Pacquiao. And Mayweather adjusted against Judah, he can do that against Pacquiao.

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        #13
        Originally posted by boxasmash
        he's improved since marquez, mayweather nearly got koed by corley and dropped by judah.

        mayweather hates pressure fighters and southpaws with speed. what is manny?
        Mayweather is undefeated vs. Every southpaw hes ever faced....and KOd all of them except Judah who low blowed his way out of a knockout loss.

        Mayweathers LOVES presuure fighters....easy to time...easy to hit...

        Judah was faster then Floyd....at 147.....

        Pac wont be faster then Floyd at 140 pounds...nor will he hit harder.

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          #14
          Only on sheer workrate does he stand a chance imo. Mr boat buyer will beat him, likely by KO.

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            #15
            How does Pac stand a chance against Mayweather...

            Man, you all really need to use less extreme language.

            He hits hard, he at least has a puncher's chance.

            He's also really fast, and could possibly beat Floyd to the punch... it's been done before... Judah was faster than Floyd, and Pacquiao looks blazing now.

            He's also just really good, has a strong chin and a strong will... it's pretty hard to ever count him out of a fight. He's entirely too good for this "standing a chance" talk.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Don.
              Manny struggled with JMM twice....and was countered rather easily.

              JMM a slick counter puncher gives Manny troubles everytime....

              Now factor in this...Everything JMM does...Mayweather does better.

              Mayweather is taller...longer...stronger..faster....has better defense..has better reflexes.....is younger.....hits harder..has a better chin....is harder to hit....has better agility and foot speed..not to mention the power and speed May shos at 140 pounds......and is a smarter fighter who wont get into trading matches or pissing contests in the boxing ring.

              How does Manny beat a guy who essentially was created to beat a guy like him everytime?

              Please explain.

              There's nothing to explain because Mayweather and JMM are two different fighters. Yes, they are both boxers who counterpunch and what not, but they are still different. First off, JMM throws punches and trades much more often than Floyd. There's a reason JMM gets hit so much even though he's a boxer. Its because he's an exciting boxer, very different from Floyd who plays super safe. JMM actually participates in trading wars, far different from Floyd.

              I've said it before and I'll say it again, if every fighter played it safe like Mayweather Jr. then there would be a whole lot more undefeated fighters at the expense of boring fights. Have you even sparred few times in your life? If you do train you should know you can be safe even against people much better than you if you fight super defensive.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                How does Pac stand a chance against Mayweather...

                Man, you all really need to use less extreme language.

                He hits hard, he at least has a puncher's chance.

                He's also really fast, and could possibly beat Floyd to the punch... it's been done before... Judah was faster than Floyd, and Pacquiao looks blazing now.

                He's also just really good, has a strong chin and a strong will... it's pretty hard to ever count him out of a fight. He's entirely too good for this "standing a chance" talk.
                He wont be faster then Floyd at 140 pounds.

                And at 147...if you watch the fight Body shots turned Zbs speed into Margs.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The_Executioner
                  So Mayweather hasn't improved since Corley and Judah? And Judah is bigger and stronger than Pacquiao. And Mayweather adjusted against Judah, he can do that against Pacquiao.
                  Not really sure if he has. He does seem slow and more hesitant to actually mix it up. Not sure on the punch-stats, but when I watch his fights now it doesn't seem like he is throwing the same amount as he was from 130-140. Bigger fighters as the reason? maybe...but if he used his style method like he did against Diego, he shouldn't have a problem.


                  Judah also breaks down mentally in a fight...although Mayweather was breaking him down to the body and then started to pick it up. Still not sure with that fight. Pac also throws a lot more than Judah. Judah has speed and power though and Floyd should get him as a sparring partner to prepare but to make sure Judah fights like Pac, have Judah go all out for 5 straight-rounds since it is sparring and he wouldn't have to worry about going the distance (as far as Judah is concerned). And then you could stick another fighter in there after 5 rounds to continue on...and so on. He should let Judah wear 8oz gloves too.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pacmanjay
                    There's nothing to explain because Mayweather and JMM are two different fighters. Yes, they are both boxers who counterpunch and what not, but they are still different. First off, JMM throws punches and trades much more often than Floyd. There's a reason JMM gets hit so much even though he's a boxer. Its because he's an exciting boxer, very different from Floyd who plays super safe. JMM actually participates in trading wars, far different from Floyd.

                    I've said it before and I'll say it again, if every fighter played it safe like Mayweather Jr. then there would be a whole lot more undefeated fighters at the expense of boring fights. Have you even sparred few times in your life? If you do train you should know you can be safe even against people much better than you if you fight super defensive.
                    Boxing" Hit and not get hit"

                    Fact.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Don.
                      Manny struggled with JMM twice....and was countered rather easily.

                      JMM a slick counter puncher gives Manny troubles everytime....

                      Now factor in this...Everything JMM does...Mayweather does better.

                      Mayweather is taller...longer...stronger..faster....has better defense..has better reflexes.....is younger.....hits harder..has a better chin....is harder to hit....has better agility and foot speed..not to mention the power and speed May shos at 140 pounds......and is a smarter fighter who wont get into trading matches or pissing contests in the boxing ring.

                      How does Manny beat a guy who essentially was created to beat a guy like him everytime?

                      Please explain.
                      Any and every boxing expert will tell you that the Pac that fought Marquez twice is different and improved. Now you learn from your mistakes and im sure Pac has thats why he continues to evolve. Sure May gives Pacs problems but Pac gives May problems as well.

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