Now I know why Oscar was so light for the fight against Pacquiao...

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  • Pacmanjay
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    oscar came in light because he wanted to prove that he could beat pac on equal terms based on his boxing ability not because he was the bigger guy.

    hatton has gone the opposite way and said he wants to win because he is the bigger guy not because of his boxing ability.


    Why would he come in so much under 147 when he knew Manny would be pretty much on point at that weight (because Manny doesn't have to cut any weight for that weight)? It doesn't make sense for a old fighter who already would have trouble making weight cut purposefully come under to prove a pointless point that he could be a smaller fighter while weighing 2-3 lbs less. Now, do you really think that makes sense? Regardless of how much Oscar was lighter than Manny on weigh in, people would have considered Oscar the bigger fighter ANYWAYS.

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    • Pacmanjay
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      #42
      And tell me, one of you geniuses. Stop dodging this question:

      WHY WOULD OSCAR, WHO WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP, SUDDENLY PUT THAT MUCH EFFORST INTO COMING IN UNDER WEIGHT? WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE COULD HE HAVE BY DOING SO? SPEED, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SO IF ANYONE TAKES 3 POUNDS OFF THEY WOULD BE MUCH QUICKER THAN THEY ARE CURRENTLY? OR IF YOU ARGUE THAT THAT WAS JUST A MISTAKE ON OSCAR'S CAMP, THAT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE EITHER COMING FROM A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN BOXING FOR SO LONG.

      ALSO, HE WAS AROUND 145 FOR THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP. HOW MUCH "WEIGHT DRAINED" DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE CUTTING AN EXTRA 3 POUNDS?? HUH!?!? 3 ***ING POUNDS. HE WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. HOW MUCH WEIGHT DRAINED DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE!?

      JESUS ***ING CHRIST....

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        #43
        Originally posted by Pacmanjay
        it was for exactly what is happening. To say that as an excuse if he were to lose the fight. It all makes sense, Oscar showed himself under 147 numerous times in 24/7 and talked about his weight (how low it was) many times in interviews leading up to the fight. Even though he probably thought he could win, being the kind of person that he has become he needed a scapegoat in case he did lose.

        Remember, at the weigh-ins, something odd happened. Pacquiao weighed himself before coming out (like all fighters do) but weighed 2 pounds or so less than the scale in the back. This tells me that Oscar not only came in weighing less than Manny deliberately, he also had his people manipulate the scale to accentuate his under weight condition. It worked perfectly, nearly everyone believes, that Oscar's weight played a big part in his loss. Hell, even Pac fans are tricked into believing it was all about Oscar's dehydration and no Pac's performance.
        I don't think filipinos are ******, in fact I know for a fact that filipinos aren't ******. But you do make a compelling case.

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          #44
          Look man, it's simple; more than one person on here thinks you're the person that shouldn't be posting anymore. Maybe it's time for a new account. Next time, don't try to blame a fighter for trying to find excuses when the "excuses" are actually valid and legitimate. Good day.

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            #45
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            I don't think filipinos are ******, in fact I know for a fact that filipinos aren't ******. But you do make a compelling case.


            wow, you got me there buddy

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            • Pacmanjay
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              #46
              Originally posted by TheGreatHeron
              Look man, it's simple; more than one person on here thinks you're the person that shouldn't be posting anymore. Maybe it's time for a new account. Next time, don't try to blame a fighter for trying to find excuses when the "excuses" are actually valid and legitimate. Good day.

              There are about five of you. And from readind your posts, you guys are less than admirable in the intelligence department, so no thanks.

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              • Pacmanjay
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                #47
                keep ignoring that question...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Pacmanjay
                  There are about five of you. And from readind your posts, you guys are less than admirable in the intelligence department, so no thanks.
                  Hahaha, now I'm accused of having alts. Great.

                  Listen you keep thinking scenarios in your head if it makes you feel better, man. Just to let you know, I didn't even bother reading your mindless long ass post. I get it, you're defending Pacquiao. He is a great fighter, but the DLH he fought isn't something to base his performance on. Give it a rest.

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                  • Pacmanjay
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TheGreatHeron
                    Hahaha, now I'm accused of having alts. Great.

                    Listen you keep thinking scenarios in your head if it makes you feel better, man. Just to let you know, I didn't even bother reading your mindless long ass post. I get it, you're defending Pacquiao. He is a great fighter, but the DLH he fought isn't something to base his performance on. Give it a rest.

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                    hahaha?

                    lol, you are even dumber than I thought. wow.... should i even respond....


                    you told me that there are many "people" who think I have no basis....


                    so I said there are five of those people.....


                    I'm sorry I didn't write to your 2nd grade level reading comprehension


                    ha..... ha.... ha......


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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pacmanjay
                      Why would he come in so much under 147 when he knew Manny would be pretty much on point at that weight (because Manny doesn't have to cut any weight for that weight)?
                      because dlh didn't want people to say that he won just because he was the bigger fighter. duh.

                      It doesn't make sense for a old fighter who already would have trouble making weight cut purposefully come under to prove a pointless point that he could be a smaller fighter while weighing 2-3 lbs less.
                      dlh did it because of pride and overconfidence. he thought he was still gonna be the bigger guy and be able to bully pac around.

                      Now, do you really think that makes sense? Regardless of how much Oscar was lighter than Manny on weigh in, people would have considered Oscar the bigger fighter ANYWAYS.
                      yeah, but if a dehydrated oscar beat pac, it would be because of skill and heart... same as a dehydrated nate campbell beating ali funeka. nate got huge props for winning that fight... so would dlh.

                      Originally posted by Pacmanjay
                      And tell me, one of you geniuses. Stop dodging this question:

                      WHY WOULD OSCAR, WHO WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP, SUDDENLY PUT THAT MUCH EFFORST INTO COMING IN UNDER WEIGHT?
                      2 reason: to prove that he can beat pac because of skills not becaues he's the bigger man. also dlh is greedy and if he didn't make weight pac got money from his purse.

                      WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE COULD HE HAVE BY DOING SO? SPEED, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
                      no, he thought he could still beat pac even tho he was dehydrated. he bought into the myth that he was bigger and there was no way pac could beat him.

                      SO IF ANYONE TAKES 3 POUNDS OFF THEY WOULD BE MUCH QUICKER THAN THEY ARE CURRENTLY?
                      it got nothing to do with speed... it has to do with pride and money.

                      OR IF YOU ARGUE THAT THAT WAS JUST A MISTAKE ON OSCAR'S CAMP, THAT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE EITHER COMING FROM A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN BOXING FOR SO LONG.
                      most boxing experts thought dlh was gonna win... that was conventional wisdom. oscar and his team bought into it

                      ALSO, HE WAS AROUND 145 FOR THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP. HOW MUCH "WEIGHT DRAINED" DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE CUTTING AN EXTRA 3 POUNDS?? HUH!?!?
                      team dlh thought if dlh could maintain that weight throughout training camp that dlh would be used to fighting at that weight. that was a faulty hypothesis.

                      3 ***ING POUNDS. HE WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. HOW MUCH WEIGHT DRAINED DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE!?
                      pretty weight-drained.
                      JESUS ***ING CHRIST....
                      don't use the Lord's name in vain

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