Why wouldn't Hatton be p4p no.1?

[MR. V]

This is an interesting topic. What about the manner of his win, if hatton wins?

For example, what IF (speaking hypothetically here), its a complete shutout and he dominates Manny, the same way Manny dominated oscar? Surely dmonating the current p4p #1 would be enough reason for him to claim that title?

thats what i posted in this thread, and all the pacman huggers/ricky haters, hit me with verbal abuse. lol


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...er-rated+manny!!!!

[Wood23ard]

Pound for pound is not a belt.When you beat the best it means the best has gone down the rankings but you need to beat more to prove you are the real thing.Mind you when Hatton wins (if),you now compare Hatton to the JMM,Mosley,BHop,Vazquez and every other boxer.If you say Hatton is better than everyone then he would be number one,in this case he wont be because he would still need to beat more quality fighters to get that status

But if Hatton puts in a very good performance vs Manny that will mean he has put in 2 good performances in a row, add that to his Castillo and Tyszu wins and he's got to be up there.

You look at the other fighters who can claim the title

Hopkins? As you say you have to be consistant which Hopkins has not been in the last 3-4 years.

JMM? 2 losses in last 3 years, including one to the current champ

If Hatton wins while i agree it's not clear cut but there simply won't be a stand out p4p no.1, if Hatton was to go on and win another big fight he'd be no.1 without doubt.

[MR.PLANAS]

It takes more than just a string of victories, it also has to do by how great you look in those victories.

[MR. V]

If Hatton wins while i agree it's not clear cut but there simply won't be a stand out p4p no.1, if Hatton was to go on and win another big fight he'd be no.1 without doubt.

i agree with that.

[S.G.]

This is an interesting topic. What about the manner of his win, if hatton wins?

For example, what IF (speaking hypothetically here), its a complete shutout and he dominates Manny, the same way Manny dominated oscar? Surely dmonating the current p4p #1 would be enough reason for him to claim that title?

i think then Pacquiao's own credentials have to be re-examined temporarily and have a bit of a reshuffle

Vazquez, the Marquez bros, Hopkins... Hell, even Mosley, Calderon and Cotto would find themselves higher than before

[Wood23ard]

It takes more than just a string of victories, it also has to do by how great you look in those victories.

yes and hatton has looked good in all his victories, people say he looked **** against lazcano and while he didn't look brilliant he still only lost 2 or so round.

[FLY TY]

there was a thread about this topic some time ago....

i can see hatton being above marquez, no matter the number, for the simple fact as hatton said today, "he's about to beat a guy marquez lost to TWICE."

[Pretty Boy32]

Def not number one,
he hasnt fought enough good fighters in his career.
Top 5 maybe at max if he beats manny,
Manny deserves to be up there

[Bobby Shaw]

But if Hatton puts in a very good performance vs Manny that will mean he has put in 2 good performances in a row, add that to his Castillo and Tyszu wins and he's got to be up there.

You look at the other fighters who can claim the title

Hopkins? As you say you have to be consistant which Hopkins has not been in the last 3-4 years.

JMM? 2 losses in last 3 years, including one to the current champ

If Hatton wins while i agree it's not clear cut but there simply won't be a stand out p4p no.1, if Hatton was to go on and win another big fight he'd be no.1 without doubt.

If Hatton was number 3 and then he beat Manny then he would be number one,coming from number 8 to number one will not happen with one fight.
Hatton lost to Mayweather,struggled to beat Lazcano,beat Malignaggi.His recent victories are not against quality people.
Hopkins lost controversially (depending on which side you are on) to Calzaghe then beat Pavlk who was now highly rated.Hopkins hasnt lost many rounds in his career,same with Marquez,all these guys have been proved at the highest level.
If Haton beat Pacman,he will be number 5 or 4,if he beat someone else he will probably be 3 (depending on how others are performing),if he beat another good person then he would be the best.
Pound for pound are ratings,ratings use points,you accumulate points for you to go up thats why it takes a few fights from where he is at the moment.

[Mary Jane]

Because Floyd's coming back.