According to most Floyd fans, Floyd isnt a WW, nor is he a JWW.

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  • Burner
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    #61
    Originally posted by bsrizpac
    The bolded is what I'm talking about. It wasn't made super public but it was def. mentioned a few times by different media outlets. And yet, Floyd was fighting a a "shot old" guy. Gotcha.
    Exactly...when Floyd beat him he was shot and old...

    When Pac beat Oscar a year later a loss to floyd and 15 pounds lighter..it was a great victory.

    Right.

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    • bsrizpac
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      #62
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      That's true. The star wants an advantage. I have no problem with that.

      My problem only lies with the fact that floydstans build this as a fair and competitive when it clearly isn't.

      Floyd is using his starpower leverage to gain the maximum advantage. I have no problems. Just don't call the fight legit. It's a surefire win for Floyd.
      You were doing fine until this last part. ALL FIGHTS ARE LIKE THIS.

      It's the game. That's just the way it is. LOL@not legit. Yeah like it's better over where you are or something.

      Give me a break. Most big fights have all kinds of shennanigans going on. He tried to get an advantage and didn't get a full one. OOHHHH big deal.

      Let's name all the ****head fighters that have taken advantage of SOMETHING to build a name or get money:

      James Toney (old ass holyfield)
      Roy Jones Jr. (Tarver III was fought in a stadium)
      Mike Tyson
      Lennox Lewis
      Bernard Hopkins
      Joe Calzaghe
      Sven Ottke
      Wlad Klit
      Corrie Sanders

      etc. etc.

      Give it a rest okay? Asking for a weight that's good for you is NOT taking a huge advantage. LOL. It's just trying to make it easy on yourself.

      I wonder if you clowns were cursing Ruiz for daring to fight Roy Jones since he was so much bigger. LOL.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Deja_Vous
        JMM is a better fighter than Micheal Jennings and Alphonso Gomez.

        Why did ya'll give Tony a free pass for fighting GOLDEN JOHNSON???

        He's not a Welterweight

        Why did Oscar get free pass for fighting STEVE FORBES...

        Steve is a Jr Lighweight???


        You latino's need to stop being hypocrites.
        You've been ducking me everytime you post crap about Cotto not mentioning Floyd's name, and how they cant even pry Floyd name out of Cotto's mouth. How about u reply to this vid that you so conveniently duck every time i post it.

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          #64
          Originally posted by deevel79
          Well it does make a difference in this case when he's trying to get a light weight to come up to 147 for a fight. Im happy that a deal is close to signed, and a catchweight is has been agreed upon, but it doesnt negate the fact that Floyd tried to make this fight happen at 147.

          His fans defend this fight happening at WW, yet moan and complain that he's not a WW when an actual WW wants to fight at WW.
          he never want it at 147 he want close to 147 like 145 where jmm want at 140 or 142

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            #65
            Originally posted by deevel79
            You've been ducking me everytime you post crap about Cotto not mentioning Floyd's name, and how they cant even pry Floyd name out of Cotto's mouth. How about u reply to this vid that you so conveniently duck every time i post it.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgKmr46VZM
            Video has been removed I'd like to see it just for ****s and giggles. repost please.

            Doesn't change the fact that Cotto "ducked" him at 140.

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              #66
              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              I'm not going to step into a racial thing here but I DO REMEMBER MARGIE fans doing this. LMAO@Golden Johnson and the ***** excuses for fighting that guy, but then those same people dogging Floyd for fighting a Baldomir. FAIL.
              Good to know I'm not the only one that notices their bull****.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Mr. Boat Buyer
                Exactly....or how about this...

                At Floyds natural weight class of 140 pounds.....

                Cotto and Hatton wanted nothing to do with him.....

                At 147 pounds where Floyd is slower...less powerful...etc...they both come running.

                Inetersting.
                Floyd at 140: "Cotto's too green and needs a few more tuneups"

                But lets say for your sake that Floyd called Cotto out at 140, and Cotto avoided the challenge.

                How does it suits Floyd's argument for avoiding Cotto at 147?

                According to Floyd, fighting Cotto when they were both WW's makes no sense because

                -Cotto isnt a draw
                -Cotto needs to become his own ceo
                -Arum's a grumpy old man
                -Cotto needs to get his fanbase up
                -etc....

                If Cotto isnt a draw at 147, he was even more unknown at 140. How was Cotto worthy at 140 when he was virtually unknown, yet not worthy at 147 after beating the likes of Mosley and Judah, and obtaining a huge P.R fanbase/following?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                  Good to know I'm not the only one that notices their bull****.
                  Doesn't matter. Margie fans got owned hard after Paul Williams kicked his ass. Still there were excuses.

                  So Mosley finished the job.

                  Then there was the plaster debacle....lol.

                  You know, I dog Ell gallo a LOT on here and I stand by most of it, but I have to give dude props for turning on Margie. Must've been hard to do but respect for that.

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                    #69
                    If Floyd fights at 147, he is a welterweight.

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                    • bsrizpac
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by deevel79
                      Floyd at 140: "Cotto's too green and needs a few more tuneups"

                      But lets say for your sake that Floyd called Cotto out at 140, and Cotto avoided the challenge.

                      How does it suits Floyd's argument for avoiding Cotto at 147?

                      According to Floyd, fighting Cotto when they were both WW's makes no sense because

                      -Cotto isnt a draw
                      -Cotto needs to become his own ceo
                      -Arum's a grumpy old man
                      -Cotto needs to get his fanbase up
                      -etc....

                      If Cotto isnt a draw at 147, he was even more unknown at 140. How was Cotto worthy at 140 when he was virtually unknown, yet not worthy at 147 after beating the likes of Mosley and Judah, and obtaining a huge P.R fanbase/following?

                      Uh it was Cotto and hatton who both said they were too green to face Floyd after Gatti. Nice try though. It was well documented.

                      I dunno why Floyd wouldn't want to fight him at 147 (THE MAGIC WEIGHT CLASS) instead of OSCAR DE LA HOYA.

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