Muhammed Ali Over-rated?

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joe would have broken ali down.

lmfao hahahaha

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Overrated nobody who lost to 140 lb Henry Cooper and was knocked out for 10 minutes with Angelo Dundee screwing Cooper out of his victory by ripping Ali's gloves and having them replaced.

you know he cut cooper up and had his eye falling out of his head right?

[Dubious-Dutch]

Overrated nobody who lost to 140 lb Henry Cooper and was knocked out for 10 minutes with Angelo Dundee screwing Cooper out of his victory by ripping Ali's gloves and having them replaced.

People still believe that old wives tale? The funny thing is they timed the break in rounds and it wasn't even close to a minute, never mind ten minutes. Is that all you have against ALI? A fabrication?

[StarshipTrooper]

Whatcha bet everyone who voted yes in this poll is part of Tunney's Klit-Licker crowd?

Poet

[TheGreatA]

you know he cut cooper up and had his eye falling out of his head right?

I was obviously very serious when I said it.

[Dave Rado]

One of the most biased posts I've ever seen.

He was in a lot of close fights, and received at least three gift decisions in his pro career.

Some would say Norton deserved the nod in all three fights, but they were extremely close and difficult to score, and far from being gift decisions. No extremely close fight can ever be called a robbery. And styles make fights, and Norton just happened to have a style to trouble Ali. Overall Ali was a far better fighter than Norton, taking their other fights into account. And by the third fight, Ali was way past his prime.

Other than the two wins against Norton, there were no other fights he won that many people thought he should have lost.

He was knocked down by the smaller Englishman Cooper in 1963.

And stopped Cooper in the very next round. And destroyed Cooper in the rematch. Cooper had a very good left hook if he landed it flush, and Ali took him too lightly in their first fight. In the rematch, he negated the hook and Cooper couldn't land.

He was knocked down and defeated by Joe Frazier at age 29.

After a four year enforced break and only six months into his comeback, against an ATG fighter. And very few fighters would have got up from that punch, and he was up almost immediately.

He went life and death for 15 rounds and was knocked down by a limited journeyman called Chuck Wepner.

Outright lie. He coasted against Wepner, won easily, and that so-called knock-down happened when Wepner was standing on Ali's foot while landing a punch on his chest, so that Ali lost his balance. Ali cut both Wepner's eyes and broke his nose before knocking him down, when the fight was stopped.

He fought a lot of opponents like Blin and Bonavena with whom he had about a 12" reach advantage.

So what? Bonavena was a very good fighter, and gave Frazier two of his toughest ever fights. Nat Fleischer called Bonevana "The most powerful fighter I've ever seen". And Ali fought him coming off his four year enforced lay-off and gave him his first stoppage defeat. And it was an 8" reach advantage, not 12".

[StarshipTrooper]

By the way, I'm not saying he ain't great, cos he is, but he wasn't as good as SRR who hardly any casual fans know of, yet EVERYONE knows Ali!

That's fair enough. Nobody was as good as Robinson BUT Heavyweights always get all the ink.

Poet

[Dubious-Dutch]

I was obviously very serious when I said it.

The problem is many people share that same opinion.......

[Benny Leonard]

to consider him the greatest hw ever is overrating him imo. Joe Louis is the greatest hw of all time.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/20heavyweights.html

THE TOP 20 HEAVYWEIGHTS OF ALL TIME

1. Joe Louis




Ring Magazine's 100 Greatest Punchers

1. Joe Louis




In 2005 The International Boxing Research Organization (IBRO) named Joe Louis as the greatest heavyweight-boxing champion of all time

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/louis_ibro.html

[boxaholic]

Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Babe Ruth, Jim Brown....Some could be in a discussion for the greatest in there sport but Overrated you are fooling yourself.

On this board lately being named Muhammad and a black fighter makes you Overrated. Some of your racism remarks and hate have tried to make this sight go to ****. You haters know who you are.