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  • dumber79
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    #41
    Originally posted by supcuhz211
    booing a nations national anthem is hooligan like behavior.

    let me just point out a few floors in your sh** arguement.

    were you there?? I suspect no.
    was i there? yes.
    am i a hatton fan? yes.
    did I boo? NO.
    did i see anyone in the near vacinity boo? no.
    were the majority of hatton fans booing? no.
    did PBF have enough fans there to make a fart noise nevermind boo? NO.
    are a lot of people assuming that because hatton fans are the largest in number, most vocal and the best travelled hooligans? YES.
    if you want to see hooligans mate then you are better off going to a european football match , rather than sitting in your arm chair typing away stereotyping. you've probably not even left your state to watch a boxing match nevermind country.

    ruuuuubbb up!!

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    • supcuhz211
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      #42
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
      would should could
      if ands and maybes dont count bro

      fact is he isnt
      I agree this dude is so over rated. wasted talent
      oh well
      judah still has the raw talent and skills to beat any top 10 fighters in the 140 div.

      just because the dood got character issues people want to label him overrated.

      he is maiing a comback! lol

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      • Chuckguy
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        #43
        Originally posted by supcuhz211
        explain why gamboa is overrated? lol and zab? give me a break!
        I think Gamboa isnt over rated but he is suspect
        Ive seen a few of his fights and he is wide open. He got rocked twice in one fight, never the less he did come back to clean house. But it leaves alot of questions cause he is not even up to B fighters and he is getting rocked by c and D level fighters

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        • Tankster
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          #44
          Originally posted by dumber79
          let me just point out a few floors in your sh** arguement.

          were you there?? I suspect no.
          was i there? yes.
          am i a hatton fan? yes.
          did I boo? NO.
          did i see anyone in the near vacinity boo? no.
          were the majority of hatton fans booing? no.
          did PBF have enough fans there to make a fart noise nevermind boo? NO.
          are a lot of people assuming that because hatton fans are the largest in number, most vocal and the best travelled hooligans? YES.
          if you want to see hooligans mate then you are better off going to a european football match , rather than sitting in your arm chair typing away stereotyping. you've probably not even left your state to watch a boxing match nevermind country.

          ruuuuubbb up!!
          I was at the mayweather and hatton fight. And brits from the upperdeck and middle rows booed the national anthem of the US. Don't say they did't you piece if ****. Americans don't boo their own national anthem, so who did? Its is the same people chanting "Hatton in wonderland" throughout the entire fight until the KO.

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          • Chuckguy
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            #45
            Originally posted by supcuhz211
            judah still has the raw talent and skills to beat any top 10 fighters in the 140 div.

            just because the dood got character issues people want to label him overrated.

            he is maiing a comback! lol
            YEah and Floyd is labeled the best on sheer talent but he has yet to prove it
            come on man
            you are giving Zab more excuses
            He is talented ....no doubt but he doesnt apply so he is over rated for that

            Final results are losses when it really counts
            he LOST PERIOD
            cant step it up
            all that adds up to
            OVER RATED!!!!!
            OVER RATED!!!!!
            OVER RATED!!!!!

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            • strugler
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              #46
              Originally posted by Tankster
              Yes Valero is very overrated i have him in my list. While guzman is severly underrated, do anybody give credit for this guy??
              what im saying is peoples opinion about hatton aint really that overboard just like any boxer he has his share of extreme fans..........just a few though just like most of today's fighter...........yes guzman is overrated/unproven for me......

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              • supcuhz211
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                #47
                Originally posted by dumber79
                let me just point out a few floors in your sh** arguement.

                were you there?? I suspect no.
                was i there? yes.
                am i a hatton fan? yes.
                did I boo? NO.
                did i see anyone in the near vacinity boo? no.
                were the majority of hatton fans booing? no.
                did PBF have enough fans there to make a fart noise nevermind boo? NO.
                are a lot of people assuming that because hatton fans are the largest in number, most vocal and the best travelled hooligans? YES.
                if you want to see hooligans mate then you are better off going to a european football match , rather than sitting in your arm chair typing away stereotyping. you've probably not even left your state to watch a boxing match nevermind country.

                ruuuuubbb up!!
                were u there? thats gd, ur giving my city business
                ur a hatton fan? i feel sorry for u
                did u boo? no is what u say.. id like to think other wise.
                did pbf have enough fans there? i saw it on tv and went tot he strip after and most where pbf fans
                are all hatton fans hooligans? NO but 95% of you are
                and trust me i alrdy saw all the hooligans at the strip after the hatton fight drinkin' their asses off drunk and loud saying pbf caught hatton with a lucky left hook.

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                • supcuhz211
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  YEah and Floyd is labeled the best on sheer talent but he has yet to prove it
                  come on man
                  you are giving Zab more excuses
                  He is talented ....no doubt but he doesnt apply so he is over rated for that

                  Final results are losses when it really counts
                  he LOST PERIOD
                  cant step it up
                  all that adds up to
                  OVER RATED!!!!!
                  OVER RATED!!!!!
                  OVER RATED!!!!!
                  haha zab will beat 90% of the fighters in the 140lb division

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                  • -Swizzy-
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by supcuhz211
                    10) “King Arthur” Abraham (29-0, 23 KOs)
                    The upside: The IBF titlist and Ring #1 contender has established himself as one of the best two middleweights (160 lbs) in the world and looked terrific stopping Edison Miranda last year in their rematch. The downside: He received a gift from the referee and judges in the first Miranda fight and owns a record inflated by bogus challengers. Maybe he’s the true “king” of the division, but we can’t assume that based his best win coming over Miranda.

                    9) Ricky “Hitman” Hatton (45-1, 32 KOs)

                    How can I include the man who’s ruled the junior welterweight (140) division for four years? Because, though he remained the division’s best until the Pacman’s arrival, the “progress” shown in the win over Paulie Malignaggi in November has been overstated. His defensive liabilities remained, the opponent just changed to one who matched up terribly with Hatton.

                    8 Sergio Martinez (44-1-2, 24 KOs)
                    HBO has fallen in love with Martinez, a very fast southpaw. The fact, however, that he has managed to go 47 bouts without us knowing who he is speaks volumes about his caliber of opponents. Alex Bunema and Kermit Cintron were good B-level opposition; now it’s time to see Martinez in against the A-listers.

                    8) Vic “Raging Bull” Darchinyan (32-1-1, 26 KOs)
                    Undoubtedly, Darchinyan put on a spectacular performance against Cristian Mijares at the end of 2008. But #10 pound-for-pound by Ring? He’s still only one year removed from a draw with Z Gorres and two years from being dominated by Nonito Donaire, who’s not on their list. Against Jorge Arce, openings existed; Arce just couldn’t take advantage.

                    7) James Kirkland (25-0, 22 KOs)
                    This former prospect has graduated to #1 WBA-WBO 154 lb. contender with impressive recent wins, including over Joel Julio last month. Yet he is not, as some suggest, an indestructible force. If he can get back onto the right path (he was arrested Sunday on a weapons charge), he’ll be among the best, but he’s not there yet; I’d favor fellow junior middleweight (154) Alfredo Angulo over Kirkland.

                    5) Oleg Maskaev (36-6, 27 KOs)
                    Why is this 40 year old Russian ranked in the top five by the IBF and WBC when he stands no more than a lucky puncher’s chance against the Klitschko brothers? He’s had a decent career featuring two come-from-behind knockouts of one-punch champ Hasim Rahman along with all six of his losses by knockout, but no hopers don’t belong in the top 10.

                    4) Michael “The Great” Katsidis (25-2, 21 KOs)
                    This Greek has a fan-friendly style that endears him to boxing critics, but he’s a poor man’s Ricky Hatton. If you can withstand his physical attack, and many will be able to, you’ll break him down.

                    3) Celestino Caballero (31-2, 22 KOs)
                    After his unification win over then solid-but-unspectacular IBF 122 lb. titlist Steve Molitor, coupled with Mijares’ drubbing by Darchinyan, Caballero has become the boxer du jour of commentators. Until he puts an Israel Vazquez, Rafael Marquez, Juan Manuel Lopez, Chris John or even Yuriorkis Gamboa on his resume, his top ten status in Ring’s pound-for-pound list is dubious. I’ll give you five right now who belong above him: Paul Williams, Chad Dawson, Miguel Cotto, Josh Clottey and Lopez. Give me a couple minutes and I’ll name five more.

                    2) Kermit Cintron (30-2-1, 27 KOs)
                    Go ahead and give him back the two losses to Antonio Margarito, and still look at his resume: a gift draw with Sergio Martinez and nothing else to speak of in terms of being at the sport’s pinnacle. Against the right opponent, he’s still a good TV fighter, but he has yet to prove much else. Look for Angulo to pick him apart this summer.

                    1) Zab “Super” Judah (37-6, 25 KOs)
                    While the margin of error for most in boxing is negligible, Judah continues to get a pass (see his top ten welterweight ranking by ESPN and the Ring) despite having beaten absolutely no one since he wore the division’s crown in 2005. He’s 3-4 with 1 no contest since then, yet we let him coast. Why? Let him earn it, like everybody else.


                    Brian Gorman ringtalk.com
                    Darchinyan, Hatton and Abraham should not be on that list. that seems more a list of sentiment than actual thoughtfulness.

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                    • RRICAN
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tankster
                      Not in any order

                      1) Kelly Pavlik
                      2) David Haye
                      3) Jermain Taylor
                      4) Vic Darchinyan
                      5) Arthur Abraham
                      6) Juan Manuel Lopez
                      7) Ricky Hatton
                      8) Edwin Valero (too much hype)
                      9) Boom2x Bautista
                      10) Zab Judah
                      you better watch hbo this weekend

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