Arum Blasts Producers of The ‘Thrilla’ Documentary

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It didn't twist the truth.. If anything, history has twisted the truth.
People forget how much of an ******* and a prick Ali was. They forget the hell he put Frazier and his family through. It's about time someone showed Ali for what he really is.

I don't understand how people and Ali expect Frazier to forgive him either.
Would you forgive a man who turned his back on you after you helped him out, rediculed you and tried to humiliate you but then after it was all said and done tried to wash his hands by saying it was meant to "promote" the fight and giving a weak ass apology?
Showing up to someone's hotel firing off a gun isn't promoting a fight.. It's just arrogant ignorance.

Ali deserves to be in the state he is in. He was a great fighter with extraordinary talent and skill but he was a worthless man. I bet he must regret everything he said and did when he has trouble performing easy everyday functions.

ur a ****in prick someone ban this bandwagoning, never makin the right predictions in fights ****.

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I agree with this article, and I rarely agree with Arum. It was about time a documentary was made giving Frazier's side of the story, but there absolutely was no need for it to go out of its way to demean Ali in ways that had absolutely no relevance to Frazier, or for it to do so by twisting and bending the truth. That did Frazier a severe disservice, because it makes him look mean and a liar, when he's neither. Ali is no saint, but he's nothing like the picture the film paints of him either. The film's just a hatchet job, and the worst sort of journalism.

co-sign......good post man

[rizkybizness]

A Ronnie article I actually read.

i was about to say the same

[HK45]

People are just pissed off because for once Ali is not portrayed as a larger than life good guy. This documentary showed both sides of the story and the real thruth behind Ali. It's about time that someone gave Frazier some credit and exposed the side that people like to hide about Ali.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

It didn't twist the truth.. If anything, history has twisted the truth.
People forget how much of an ******* and a prick Ali was. They forget the hell he put Frazier and his family through. It's about time someone showed Ali for what he really is.

I don't understand how people and Ali expect Frazier to forgive him either.
Would you forgive a man who turned his back on you after you helped him out, rediculed you and tried to humiliate you but then after it was all said and done tried to wash his hands by saying it was meant to "promote" the fight and giving a weak ass apology?
Showing up to someone's hotel firing off a gun isn't promoting a fight.. It's just arrogant ignorance.

Ali deserves to be in the state he is in. He was a great fighter with extraordinary talent and skill but he was a worthless man. I bet he must regret everything he said and did when he has trouble performing easy everyday functions.

People have this opinion of Ali and I laugh. Truly I do because if not for Ali and his so called antics boxing would have been dead and buried a long time ago. Ali took a Wrestling Icons mentality and ran with it. Wrestling as we all know or maybe a few of us like to still think it is true by some of these posts I never really know. But it is fake and meant to entertain. Ali liked to get inside the heads of fans and foes alike. He used his poems and words to draw attention to himself. He often used his words to get inside the heads of his opponents. I truly think Ali knew that his words would draw attention to a fight of what many now would look at as two over the hill fighters going at it in a grudge match. He made the fight much more than that. Were some of his words hurtful? Sure they were. I truly do not think Joe Frazier was as good a showman as Ali. he would not be able to act it out if he knew what the plan was. By catching Joe off guard he brought out real emotion in Joe and thus it helped to sell the fight. It helped to sell the rivalry between the two and make it real. Take a look at Barrera and Morrales today honestly if they were on a card fighting anyone but each other would you really want to see it ? Or even care to show any interest unless you were a diehard hardcore fan of either? Probably not but since even the casual fan knows of or has seen their previous battles and they fought each other again that would be big right? Same concept here fellas. Yes Joe was good to Ali yes he gave him cash when he was down. yes he helped him out when he was having hard times. After Ali fought Joe the first time and lost Joe and Ali had their second fight Scheduled that fight was supposed to be for the HW Championship. Joe lost his previous fight to Big George Foreman right fellas? Even though Ali was no longer fighting for the HW Championship he still took on Joe in their second fight and opted to take on George at a later date. We all know as fighters the best thing any fighter can do for a fighter is fight them. This is how fighters put money in their pockets.

The gorilla comments well take them how you want too. truly Ali is black and wanted nothing more for his people then equality. Joe Frazier was proud to be black no more or no less than Ali. the times in which both of these men grew up were trying times in America and not easy for either one of them to get through. Ali's remarks to me meant more of how Frazier fought straight forward come right at you here it is take your best shot and give you his. Using his brute strength sort of like a gorilla. He called Foreman the mummy because Foreman walked his opponents down in the ring holding his hands in a certain position that reminded Ali of how the mummy walked in the movies. he called Sonny Liston a bear. A Big Ugly Bear this was just Ali's style not a racist remark. It always the people who think that way that make those claims trying to make something more out of it then it was. Joe took it that way because Joe truly hated Ali and the hatred wasn't there in Ali’s heart for Joe.

No matter which way you see it in your mind neither of them would have made the money they did off the rivalry or been viewed how they are today if the other had NOT existed. The documentary is what it is a film from someone’s view point. A collective from some of the people who live through it and saw what they saw from where they were standing when it all went down. It is unfortunate that some of the people would exaggerate the truth or their roles in what actually happened but this human nature and it is the job of the reporters to be able to tell and print or document what they know to be fact and have others statements to back up what is being shown to the public. Whether or not you agree is your own right. The fact that someone would say some of the things in the post I replied to about another human being makes them a whole lot worse than the person they are criticizing. That is fact....Lefty

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

It didn't twist the truth.. If anything, history has twisted the truth.
People forget how much of an ******* and a prick Ali was. They forget the hell he put Frazier and his family through. It's about time someone showed Ali for what he really is.

I don't understand how people and Ali expect Frazier to forgive him either.
Would you forgive a man who turned his back on you after you helped him out, rediculed you and tried to humiliate you but then after it was all said and done tried to wash his hands by saying it was meant to "promote" the fight and giving a weak ass apology?
Showing up to someone's hotel firing off a gun isn't promoting a fight.. It's just arrogant ignorance.

Ali deserves to be in the state he is in. He was a great fighter with extraordinary talent and skill but he was a worthless man. I bet he must regret everything he said and did when he has trouble performing easy everyday functions.

One thing is to be an ******* like Ali was to promote the fight another is to be happy when you see Ali in his condition. Sorry but there's no compairison there.

Frazier is an ******* to the 10th degree for the things he said in that documentary. If you want to be upset that Ali did what he did, that's fine but after all these years and Ali asking for fogiveness, you would think Frazier would get over it.

Instead the guy relishes in the Parkinsons Ali suffers from and in his words, "I smile because I know I did that to him". That's beyond low man, I don't care how you cut it.

The thing is, Frazier is the one who is worse off because History will remember Ali as the greatest HW of all time and an the biggest icon in boxing, while Frazier will be remembered as the guy who lost against Ali.

That's the real reason Frazier hates Ali, not because of a few things he said to promote the fight....

[Rich Loc]

Ali deserves to be in the state he is in.

Ban this idiot

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For once I agree with Arum on just about everything he said. Pacheco is a hypocrite and I still question that Ali said cut the gloves after the 14th round...


They made it seem like the fight was close, Ali was whoopin Joe's ass.

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It didn't twist the truth.. If anything, history has twisted the truth.
People forget how much of an ******* and a prick Ali was. They forget the hell he put Frazier and his family through. It's about time someone showed Ali for what he really is.

I don't understand how people and Ali expect Frazier to forgive him either.
Would you forgive a man who turned his back on you after you helped him out, rediculed you and tried to humiliate you but then after it was all said and done tried to wash his hands by saying it was meant to "promote" the fight and giving a weak ass apology?
Showing up to someone's hotel firing off a gun isn't promoting a fight.. It's just arrogant ignorance.

Ali deserves to be in the state he is in. He was a great fighter with extraordinary talent and skill but he was a worthless man. I bet he must regret everything he said and did when he has trouble performing easy everyday functions.

I'm sure you don't mean that...smh

[johnheys]

ali was the biggest piece of **** in boxing history. im glad they painted the picture to show what he truly was about