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  • #21
    Originally posted by Billolden View Post
    so the lines

    freddie the joke coach roach
    and
    freddie the dumptruck lasagna roach

    sound equally dissonant to you?

    you're nitpicking cause you know i make more sense than you, please read then book i suggested and then read Barack *****s book its quite good!
    no, because lasagna has more syllables than coach, so it doesnt work. same with dumptruck. although that insult is much more clever, and I would prefer if Sr used it.

    now, if Floyd Sr said something like
    "That Roach Coach best not approach, or he'll get poached'
    then I would be impressed, because those words actually rhyme.

    but Joke and Coach just dont rhyme.

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    • #22
      "My name is floyd mayweather senior
      And I look like the Predator
      Manny Pacquiao think he's the terminator
      But he ain't got nothing on Ricky, he doesn't matter
      I will embarass Joke Coach Roach
      Til he smoke coke, so his ***** will be broached."


      Floyd Mayweather.Sr himself.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
        its not there. internet websites say that coach and joke dont rhyme.

        because they dont.
        To settle this: it is called a Assonance rhyme. If you read any poetry you will notice that not all the words rhyme exactly. Sometimes poets use half rhymes. You are used to PURE rhymes. There are many different types of rhymes. YOU LOOKED ALL OVER THE INTERNET BUT MISSED THIS VERY DIFFICULT AND HARD TO FIND SITE!!!!

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_D...tion_of_rhymes

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        • #24
          It's artistic lenience. Anyone from Bob Dylan to Tupac uses it. Words don't PERFECTLY fit, but the way they display them fit them well enough.

          Just like a painter. Certain things don't really look a certain way, arne't a certain color or certain colors don't go well together in a painting. However, the artist is allowed to mold things for the better of the piece of work.

          Now, I'm not trying to call Mayweather an artist, but the concept applies.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
            Joke and Coke rhyme.

            no matter how hard you try, joke and coach dont rhyme. even when Mayweather Sr says it they dont rhyme.
            Do I need to repeat myself?

            Here, I'll use caps and bold it:

            WORDS DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME SUFFIX IN ORDER TO RHYME.

            rhyme
               /raɪm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rahym] Show IPA noun, verb, rhymed, rhym⋅ing.
            –noun
            1. identity in sound of some part, esp. the end, of words or lines of verse.

            2. a word agreeing with another in terminal sound: Find is a rhyme for mind and womankind.

            jOOOOOOOOOOke
            cOOOOOOOOOOach

            Obviously in speech you would put emphasis on the part of the word that you're rhyming, in this instance it would be the long "O" sound.

            God. That was easy. Jesus, posts as ****** as that are far too frequent on this board.

            blackirish, please just stop posting. This is one of those instances where I'm embarrassed for you.
            Last edited by deliveryman; 04-22-2009, 09:35 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
              "Joke" and "Coach" can rhyme, just because they don't have same suffix doesn't mean otherwise.
              I guess it's kinda like a para-rhyme, but it's still rubbish.



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              • #27
                Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
                Do I need to repeat myself?

                Here, I'll use caps and bold it:

                WORDS DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME SUFFIX IN ORDER TO RHYME.

                rhyme
                   /raɪm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rahym] Show IPA noun, verb, rhymed, rhym⋅ing.
                –noun
                1. identity in sound of some part, esp. the end, of words or lines of verse.

                jOOOOOOOOOOke
                cOOOOOOOOOOach

                Obviously in speech you would put emphasis on the part of the word that you're rhyming, in this instance it would be the long "O" sound.

                God. That was easy.
                COOOOOOOOOOOOOOach
                LOOOOOOOOOOOOan

                coach and loan surely dont rhyme.
                To settle this: it is called a Assonance rhyme. If you read any poetry you will notice that not all the words rhyme exactly. Sometimes poets use half rhymes. You are used to PURE rhymes. There are many different types of rhymes. YOU LOOKED ALL OVER THE INTERNET BUT MISSED THIS VERY DIFFICULT AND HARD TO FIND SITE!!!!

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_D...tion_of_rhymes
                were talkin about traditional real rhyme here. what youre trying to pull out of your ass is assonance, which is quite different.

                look at one of the examples they provide.
                The crumbling thunder of seas — Robert Louis Stevenson

                honestly, would you think that crumbling and thunder rhymed if you werent in this discussion with me?
                no, you wouldnt.

                if you were listening to the radio and heard a song that went along the lines of:
                'At night I look at the moon
                And then decide I need the toothpaste'

                youd be like 'wtf this is the worst song ever, **** doesnt even rhyme, but the lyrics are awesome'.
                even though they both make the same vowel sound,'oo'.

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                • #28
                  Here the sounds.......

                  roach

                  coach

                  gropes

                  joke

                  pokes

                  folks

                  Some of those words rhyme, traditionally. Some don't. The point is that artistically it works. It's not about every letter and syllable fitting. It's about the sound and how it feels/sounds when being performed.

                  Name ANY artist/musician, and I'll find perfect examples of this.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
                    COOOOOOOOOOOOOOach
                    LOOOOOOOOOOOOan

                    coach and loan surely dont rhyme.
                    were talkin about traditional real rhyme here. what youre trying to pull out of your ass is assonance, which is quite different.

                    look at one of the examples they provide.
                    The crumbling thunder of seas — Robert Louis Stevenson

                    honestly, would you think that crumbling and thunder rhymed if you werent in this discussion with me?
                    no, you wouldnt.

                    if you were listening to the radio and heard a song that went along the lines of:
                    'At night I look at the moon
                    And then decide I need the toothpaste'

                    youd be like 'wtf this is the worst song ever, **** doesnt even rhyme, but the lyrics are awesome'.
                    even though they both make the same vowel sound,'oo'.
                    If you really wanted to, you could make Loan and Coach rhyme, but you would have to put an even stronger emphasis on the Long "O" sound.

                    What if I said,

                    cOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOach

                    and lOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOan

                    But in the words we are discussing, "Joke" and "Coach" such an emphasis is not needed considering that they both end with hard sounds.

                    "Ke" and "Ch", which makes it a lot easier.
                    Last edited by deliveryman; 04-22-2009, 09:54 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
                      COOOOOOOOOOOOOOach
                      LOOOOOOOOOOOOan

                      coach and loan surely dont rhyme.
                      were talkin about traditional real rhyme here. what youre trying to pull out of your ass is assonance, which is quite different.

                      look at one of the examples they provide.
                      The crumbling thunder of seas — Robert Louis Stevenson

                      honestly, would you think that crumbling and thunder rhymed if you werent in this discussion with me?
                      no, you wouldnt.

                      if you were listening to the radio and heard a song that went along the lines of:
                      'At night I look at the moon
                      And then decide I need the toothpaste'

                      youd be like 'wtf this is the worst song ever, **** doesnt even rhyme, but the lyrics are awesome'.
                      even though they both make the same vowel sound,'oo'.
                      I believe he was referring to Pure Assonance Rhyming.

                      Pure Assonance Rhyme

                      1. Single Pure Assonance Rhyme (example: leaves / feast)
                      2. Double Pure Assonance Rhyme (example: babies / lady)
                      3. Triple Pure Assonance Rhyme (example: Cerements / temperance)


                      Like I said, trust me, you lost this one. Does the entire message board need to call you an idiot?

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