On JMM, Agree or Disagree?

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  • THE REED
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    #21
    Originally posted by S.G.
    this is true... pre-fight speculation is essentially meaningless after the fact, once you have the actual fight to analyse

    but while we are speculating i'll say i disagree

    if Floyd were to go down to 140lbs and beat JMM, it'd be a mega fight and really good name for the resume - however this seems unlikely

    if Floyd is to come down to fight JMM at a catchweight of 143-145lbs, it's still a mega fight and a good win for Floyd - a possible situation

    if Floyd tells JMM to fight him at welterweight it is STILL a mega fight and a pretty good win, especially considering it's his first fight back and JMM's status as a hall of famer and #2 pound-for-pounder/arguably #1 - the most likely situation

    i agree the win loses gloss the higher in weight it occurs at, but it's still JMM in there, and it'd be flat out insulting to brand the man a tune-up were he to fight at 160lbs, nevermind 147lbs
    I thinkk it is also a good win.... just not a great win as it could be at possibly 140lbs...

    Although you have a an 18 month lay off versus a jump in weight... its not a bad of fight as it may seem...

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #22
      Only reason posters won't give Floyd credit for beating JMM above 140 is because they hate him. If Floyd happens to beat JMM at 143 then JMM goes up to 147 to fight Cotto then it would be okay and fair for NSB posters. Everybody knows Mayweather is an all around better fighter than JMM in any weight they would have met in. Excuses to hate a great fighter, that's all.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
        Only reason posters won't give Floyd credit for beating JMM above 140 is because they hate him. If Floyd happens to beat JMM at 143 then JMM goes up to 147 to fight Cotto then it would be okay and fair for NSB posters. Everybody knows Mayweather is an all around better fighter than JMM in any weight they would have met in. Excuses to hate a great fighter, that's all.
        Thats bull****.,. and generalizing stereotypes


        I have absolutely ZERO bias towards Floyd... ZERO...

        You can catch me praising Floyds skills and ****ting on his opponent selection in the same day... I call it like I see it with Floyd... I really have no agenda

        If Floyd fights JMM, and then fights PAC... I think that deserves major credit...

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #24
          I think the one thing people don't mention or want to mention is the fact JMM is 35 going on 36 for this fight.

          He's old, yes he's still good enough to beat someone like Juan Diaz but I just don't see him having enough to beat Mayweather, past his prime and undersized.

          I'm not taking anything away from Mayweather for fighting him , money is money but I don't think it will be as big as test as some might think.

          Maybe 10 years ago but not now. I don't know why JMM is taking this fight other than money.

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          • S.G.
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            #25
            incidentally, i been meaning to ask; how much did JMM weigh against Diaz on the night?
            Last edited by S.G.; 04-21-2009, 03:22 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
              Only reason posters won't give Floyd credit for beating JMM above 140 is because they hate him. If Floyd happens to beat JMM at 143 then JMM goes up to 147 to fight Cotto then it would be okay and fair for NSB posters. Everybody knows Mayweather is an all around better fighter than JMM in any weight they would have met in. Excuses to hate a great fighter, that's all.

              Almost nobody is going to pick JMM to win this fight. So how much credit can you possibly give Floyd for winning it? This really comes off like fanboy crybaby ****.

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              • S.G.
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                #27
                Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                I don't know why JMM is taking this fight other than money.
                it opens a lot of windows for him, and i think his eagerness to one-up Pacquiao is a large part of it also

                i guess he's just a real warrior; going after the best

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by S.G.
                  incidetally, i been meaning to ask; how much did JMM weight against Diaz on the night?

                  Fighters fight differently when they are forced to make a lower weight.. forced to train harder, to get to a lower weight...

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                  • S.G.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    Fighters fight differently when they are forced to make a lower weight.. forced to train harder, to get to a lower weight...
                    regardless, i still wanna know... in case i have to reference it at any point in the up-coming months

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by S.G.
                      regardless, i still wanna know... in case i have to reference it at any point in the up-coming months
                      For me personally, im going to be in better shape and faster, if i have to train to get to 170, instead of 175... regardless of what I may weigh on fight night... I still had to put in that extra work... I think thats most evident with Ricky Hatton

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