Would Pac be considered a tuneup for Floyd if?

**Burner** · 04-20-2009, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

Would Pac be considered a tuneup for Floyd if in the 2nd fight JMM had gotten the SD by a point or something like that? Lets be real here, both fights between Pac and JMM were very close neither could say they won it decisively but both could claim they won by a slight margin and it would be hard for anyone to dispute, but it happened to go Pac's way. If it didn't and JMM would be in a different position then he is now and maybe Floyd would be looking for a come back fight with Pac, so would this be a tuneup in your view? If so, then what would a theoretical fight with JMM be later down the road for Floyd be in a reality where he got the close decision over Pac? a super fight? a tuneup also, or what? What I am trying to get at here is a Floyd fight and probable win over either man should be considered equal because both Pac and JMM are relative equals. One fight with JMM cannot be a tuneup and another with Pac cannot be a super fight, this based on the relative equality between Pac and JMM proven over the course of 24 rounds.

The issue is the weight not the fighters.

At 147 Pac and JMM are just tuna for the shark.

At 140-143-144....Its a fair fight.

**{}MATADOR{}** · 04-20-2009, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by King Burner II

The issue is the weight not the fighters.

At 147 Pac and JMM are just tuna for the shark.

At 140-143-144....Its a fair fight.

Agree with this. Fact is Floyd would beat both JMM and Pacquiao at 147.

Cotto would be the only one that would give Floyd a fight at this point. Shane is old and Williams should stay at middleweight.

**Spray_resistant** · 04-20-2009, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by King Burner II

The issue is the weight not the fighters.

At 147 Pac and JMM are just tuna for the shark.

At 140-143-144....Its a fair fight.

I don't want to talk about weight, they are both not WW anyways. The incorrect perception of fans puts Pac on a Pedistal way above JMM when they are on an equal level.

**{}MATADOR{}** · 04-20-2009, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

I don't want to talk about weight, they are both not WW anyways. The incorrect perception of fans puts Pac on a Pedistal way above JMM when they are on an equal level.

It's the hype that comes from getting a win over DLH.

**J.B.moneY.** · 04-20-2009, 02:21 AM

i still think marquez is a fool wanting to fight floyd....either at 140 or higher......marquez should have taken a fight against a bradley next imo....but i guess marquez is obsessive with trying to out do pac.

**Kevin Jesus** · 04-20-2009, 02:21 AM

I've been thinking about this...why the hell do people see Pacquiao so different from JMM? the fight was to close for that BS

If JMM is a tune-up or an easy fight then the same can be applied for Pacquiao.
And yes, styles make fights but in that case JMM's technical style is way better than Pacquiaos quick/agressiveness style for Floyd.
How do you knock someone down, what? 4 times? and get a draw?
and if one judge really did mess up on the scorecards, still if that judge got it right, the fight was way too close for someone who knocked down their opponent 4 times.

If any of those 2 are tune-ups I'd say it's Pacquiao, that's why i rather Mayweather fight Cotto after JMM because Pacquiao is way easier pickings than JMM.
Marquez is better than Pacquiao.

**ThePunchingBag** · 04-20-2009, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

Would Pac be considered a tuneup for Floyd if in the 2nd fight JMM had gotten the SD by a point or something like that? Lets be real here, both fights between Pac and JMM were very close neither could say they won it decisively but both could claim they won by a slight margin and it would be hard for anyone to dispute, but it happened to go Pac's way. If it didn't and JMM would be in a different position then he is now and maybe Floyd would be looking for a come back fight with Pac, so would this be a tuneup in your view? If so, then what would a theoretical fight with JMM be later down the road for Floyd be in a reality where he got the close decision over Pac? a super fight? a tuneup also, or what? What I am trying to get at here is a Floyd fight and probable win over either man should be considered equal because both Pac and JMM are relative equals. One fight with JMM cannot be a tuneup and another with Pac cannot be a super fight, this based on the relative equality between Pac and JMM proven over the course of 24 rounds.

To answer the question in the title.. No. Pacquaio is too dangerous for Floyd as a tune-up. Pac has fought at 147 before (albeit against a Drained DLH) so he knows how it feels to be at that weight in terms of power and speed. JMM hasn't fought at 147 so he'd be at a disadvantage. I'd also have to argue that JMM and Pac are only comparatively equal when fighting each other. When matched against different opponents things aren't as equal, for example Pac-Barrera and JMM-Barrera.

I don't think Marquez should be considered a tune up for Floyd but if he really is fighting Manny after him than that is most likely what he and his camp will see it as. It's not that Manny is much better than JMM ,just that it really sucks being P4P#2 when Floyd's next fight would be against the P4P#1.

**J.B.moneY.** · 04-20-2009, 02:25 AM

if this fight is higher then 140...floyd has marquez out in 6.....and i'm a marquez fan....and yes I agree pac and marquez are on an even playing field pretty much.

**Sin City** · 04-20-2009, 02:26 AM

Floyd or Cotto or Mosley have no business fighting Marquez and Pacquiao (who a year ago where super featherweights)

Would Pac be considered a tuneup for Floyd if?