This Fight Is Not A Tuneup and Stop Hating!

[BrooklynBomber]

Yes, the size difference is that big. Juan Manuel Marquez has a 67 inch reach. Floyd Mayweather has a 72 inch reach. 5 inches in reach is HUGE.

Marquez barely has more reach than Ricky Hatton. This fight is absolutely meaningless with statistical differences like that.

It does make sense in the context of recent events, but historically speaking this is not gonna be looked at all too favorably for Floyd. It does make sense monetarely as well, though.

Marquez will fight on heroically, but his efforts will die in vain.

[warp1432]

Again how is Shane a big draw now when he has never been a big draw????? Even in his prime???

He did a lot with Oscar twice obviously since it's Oscar. He did 900k with Vargas two times. He's not a huge draw, but it's a lot more then the 100k he did with Casamayor. He did 400k against Pacquiao the second time and around 250k with Barrera. JMM isn't a huge draw and neither is Shane, but Shane is the way better draw.

My point is, if Floyd wanted a bigger fight with a bigger paycheck, he could have, but didn't. He didn't duck Mosley, just chose an easier tune up fight.

But then if Pac get by Hatton a Floyd/Pac fight would be "the super fight"? How can that be if JMM is a tune up for Floyd and at the same time Pac and JMM are relatively equal?

Because JMM is fighting at 147 or 145, not 130 or 135. JMM loses speed and defense skills and is not the same fighter.

[Young Mike]

Really he should thank Oscar for opening of fights that used to be impossible to happen.
Like Oscar said these fights were only seen in video games. Next time Mayweather will ask to fight flyweight.

[BennyST]

In Floyd's WW fights he would weigh-in at 146 and come into the ring at 148. He even had to pot shot in most of his fights because the guys were so much bigger then him.

So, what's the problem with him fighting at 140 then? He can obviously make it really damn easy and probably be much more comfortable there. If he's so much smaller then giving that tiny concession to a natural FW or SFW at most, is absolutely nothing.

He should be happy to go down to 140. If he's not going to and whine about him not coming up to 147 then he just needs to get moving and actually start fighting some real WW's and you need to stop making these daft threads that are pathetically sad.

[pugilistfan]

This is a tuneup. JMM has never fought above 135.

Mayweather will damn near shut this guy out on the scorecards. I give JMM maybe 2 rounds at best. Floyd is just a horrible matchup for JMM.

Floyd is a great fighter whos won belts at every weight class.

But the one thing he is NOT, is the best welterweight. His resume at WW is downright pathetic considering the amount of hype he gets.

Ive never seen a fighter fight at a weight and continue to fight at a weight but never fight ANYBODY relevant at that weight.

[Xcusemymood]

That in one PPV Hatton had with Floyd he proved that his fans have made him as popular as Oscar was around the world.

I think some of floyd's relatives might have bought a couple of PPV's so i guess he cotributed.

Put Ricky Hatton in a PPV with Carlos Baldomir and see if he breaks 200k outside of England.

[Xcusemymood]

Which means what? Again popularity in America doesn't mean more than popularity anwhere else and the reason boxing is so popular in England and the phillipines is because both Pacman and Hatton made it popular there. It's not like they were hot beds of boxing before them. Floyd is the exact reason why boxing is floundering in America. Because nobody in America wants to get behind a gigantic douche bag who beats up the mother of his children and can't go thru a single interview without telling the whole world how much better he is than the rest of us. Just because Ricky and Pacman's fan base is primarily in another country that doesn't deminish that they are more popular than floyd could ever dream to be. Seriously please explain why being popular in America is the only way you can be a popular fighter?


You keep mentioning PPV sales but you keep dancing around the fact that these huge PPV sales were mainly because Floyds opponents were so popular not the other way around.

Wow. WOW! You are blowing it so hard. Is anyone reading this? Hatton made boxing popular in england!!!

How is that so? Why did Oscar AND Floyd break the record? Why wasnt it with Mayorga? Why isnt Hatton even on PPV unless its with Floyd or Pacman?

Your argument has no validity.

[Young Mike]

Put Ricky Hatton in a PPV with Carlos Baldomir and see if he breaks 200k outside of England.

Mayweather talks so much **** that people will pay now just to see his ass get whooped. But before he fought Oscar De La Hoya fans didn't care much of him. De La Hoya brought him to the map and those that got to know him from there on want to see him fight a worthy opponent in a fair fight.

[Xcusemymood]

let me show you the diffrence between average floyd and fighters that are actually popular in America.


VS Zab Judah generated 374,000 PPV buys

Vs Gatti 365,000 buys

vs Baldomir 325,000 pay-per-view buys


Oscar Vs mayorga generated 925,000 buys

Taylor-Hopkins II pulled in 410,000 PPV Buys

Tarver-Jones III pulled in 415,000 Buys

Trinidad vs Wright In 2005 pulled in 520,000 buys

Shane Mosely vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 buys

Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys

Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys

Tarver/Hopkins - 330,000 buys (06/2006)

Mosley/Vargas II - 350,000 buys (07/2006)

Pacquiao-Marquez 400,000 buys

Other than Oscar and maybe Tito none of those other fighters have ever been cosidered very popular in the US. Notice how Floyds PPV numbers finish in the bottom part of this list when he isn't fighting Hatton or Oscar?


Like i said before pretty ***ing average!!!!!

Are you telling me if Floyd fought Tito, Wright, Taylor, Mosley, Vargas, or Pac you wouldnt bet he would do AT LEAST over 500K?

Obviously everyone knows Oscar is in a league of his own but Floyd is on par with Tito....

[Xcusemymood]

Mayweather talks so much **** that people will pay now just to see his ass get whooped. But before he fought Oscar De La Hoya fans didn't care much of him. De La Hoya brought him to the map and those that got to know him from there on want to see him fight a worthy opponent in a fair fight.

Hey numbers are numbers. Its called A DRAW.