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  • Pullcounter
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    #61
    jmm is a tune up

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    • El Dominicano
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      #62
      The size difference isn't that big, the mismatch is in the style...reason why I call it a tune up. Ofcourse I'll say it is a good win but really, I see nothing in JMM that could trouble Floyd

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      • pistol whip
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        #63
        Originally posted by El Dominicano
        The size difference isn't that big, the mismatch is in the style...reason why I call it a tune up. Ofcourse I'll say it is a good win but really, I see nothing in JMM that could trouble Floyd
        And this is exactly the type of thinking that will lose the fight for floyd. I hope he takes JMM as a tune up becasue JMM has made a career of blasting people who don't take him seriously.

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #64
          Originally posted by DLT
          This is long but a must read! Mayweather fans, stop falling for this bull crap. The haterz have got so bad that they have convinced a ton of Floyd fans that they have to feel bad about this fight. Thats bull crap.

          In Floyd's WW fights he would weigh-in at 146 and come into the ring at 148. He even had to pot shot in most of his fights because the guys were so much bigger then him. Meanwhile JMM just KO a very very very good fighter in Diaz who was the best LW in the world and JMM looked physicaly very good in that fight. He's not that far off from Pac in terms of having a good body. JMM then called him out and now there fighting. This is not a tuneup. This is a real fight. By saying that its a tuneup, you will then be taking credit away from Floyd when that shouldnt be the case. Floyd is not Margarito, Williams, Clottey, or Cotto. I cant beleive how people dont care at all about Floyd fighting at 148 while those guys come in the ring between 162-170 pounds and one of them is currently fighting at MW. Margarito just got KO and his fans say that he was weight drained and should move up. Its a joke.

          How come its so bad for JMM to move up but no one has a problem with Williams going to fight guys like Pavlik at MW after just fighting Quintana or Mitchell? I dont hear anyone saying anything about that. Infact they say that Williams should fight Pavlik and he's a punk if he doesnt. Are we all forgetting about the Mayweather-Winky Wright proposal? I think people forget alot about the facts. Floyd had just beat Gatti at 140 while Winky had just killed Tito at MW. Floyd wasnt even a big 140 pounder and had only had 3 fights at that weight but not one single person said that Floyd shouldnt fight Winky. They were way way way further apart in size then Floyd-JMM and still everyone said that Floyd should fight Winky. Floyd was a small 140 pounder and wouldve had to jump straight to 154 to fight a guy who had fought at 154 his whole life and just fought at 160. A guy who came into the ring in his last fight at 168 pounds while Floyd was 144 for Gatti. That fight was so fair but Floyd-JMM isnt when Floyd comes in at 148 and JMM at 146? Remember, its not like Floyd is going back to step 1. Floyd has moved up in weight a ton of times also. Tell those WW's that you brag on so much to move up and lets see how they do besides Williams. They wont look the same at all. People make it sound like Floyd is a 160 pound WW in his 1st division picking on little JMM. Get real.

          Do you remember what alot of people said when the talks were breaking down? They actually ripped Floyd and blamed him. They called him a punk and said that he was the one that asked for the fight. Now JMM is asking for it but everyone is still ripping Floyd? Even with the size mismatch there were a ton of people saying that you shouldnt count Floyd out because he is a P4P beast. JMM is that same beast but he has no chance? Come on now, you guys are such hypocrites. Floyd fans, dont fall for it. JMM is the real deal. This is not a tuneup. It will only be a tuneup in the sense that Floyd treats everyone like a tuneup. How can you have a tuneup with maybe the best guy in the sport? Even still Floyd is fighting him at a catch weight when he didnt have to at all. Williams was just asking for Calzaghe to fight him all the way at 168 but JMM cant fight little Floyd? Did you guys see that AT&T commercial? Can any other WW look like that? He is a small guy but he's not going to sacrafice his future to appease JMM. For what? It makes no sense. The fact is simple. He's Floyd and whatever side of the fence he's on is the wrong side. He will always be wrong in a ton of fans & medias eyes. They despise him with a passion and he will always be the bad guy. He's a victim of his own talent. People penalyze him because he's talented enough to fight above his natural weight.

          When did we hear Floyd ever say that this was a tuneup? The closest thing weve ever heard was a reporter who said they talked to Floyd's friend who told them they wanted a tuneup before Pac and everyone jumps on that. Even now you have half the media saying that JMM is the tuneup and the other half are saying that he was talking about someone else before JMM, not JMM as the tuneup. Floyd in no way will call JMM a tuneup. How can JMM be a tuneup for Pac when alot of people think JMM beat Pac both times and is the P4P #1 guy in the sport? Its getting redicules. Dont get me wrong, I think Floyd kills him but thats only because I think Floyd kills just about everyone in history if he fights at his natural weight. Thats what people are misunderstanding. He's so good that its like he cant fight at his natural weight anymore or people will rip him. Yet when he fights above it then they rip him for pot shotting and running all fight long. Now there saying that Floyd may have a tuneup before JMM. Whats wrong with that? That would be great for boxing. I think he would be trying to make the JMM fight that much bigger. Im just sick of the double standard that people dont even realize that there doing. When you have a shot to fight the 2 best guys in the sport then you dont hesitate on that because it may not be on the table again or guys may lose. You have to jump at it because you can fight the other guys anytime after that
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          • DLT
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            #65
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            Which means what? Again popularity in America doesn't mean more than popularity anwhere else and the reason boxing is so popular in England and the phillipines is because both Pacman and Hatton made it popular there. It's not like they were hot beds of boxing before them. Floyd is the exact reason why boxing is floundering in America. Because nobody in America wants to get behind a gigantic douche bag who beats up the mother of his children and can't go thru a single interview without telling the whole world how much better he is than the rest of us. Just because Ricky and Pacman's fan base is primarily in another country that doesn't deminish that they are more popular than floyd could ever dream to be. Seriously please explain why being popular in America is the only way you can be a popular fighter?

            You keep mentioning PPV sales but you keep dancing around the fact that these huge PPV sales were mainly because Floyds opponents were so popular not the other way around.
            Im not saying that it doesnt count. My point is that if they were American fighters then they wouldnt have that crowd and your fooling youself if you beleive they would. You think Americans would be obssesed with Ricky Hatton? Come on now. The flip side is that if Floyd was from England then he would have even more fans then Hatton. You seriously think that they wouldnt support someone with Floyd's talent? The same goes in the Philipines.

            As for the PPV sales, again Im not just talking aobut those 2 fights. Look at his other PPV numbers. He puts up very good numbers even against guys who are not big mainstream names. He puts up the same numbers that other guys put up in there super fights

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            • Rope a Dope
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              #66
              This is more than a tune-up fight. Juan Manuel Marquez just wants the money he has nothing to lose if he loses to Mayweather. JMM was losing to Juan Diaz, but he manage to land a good shot and Juan Diaz can't take a punch as good as other mexican fighters. Next things we will know Mayweather will challenge Ivan Calderon.

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              • pistol whip
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                #67
                Originally posted by DLT
                Im not saying that it doesnt count. My point is that if they were American fighters then they wouldnt have that crowd and your fooling youself if you beleive they would. You think Americans would be obssesed with Ricky Hatton? Come on now. The flip side is that if Floyd was from England then he would have even more fans then Hatton. You seriously think that they wouldnt support someone with Floyd's talent? The same goes in the Philipines.

                As for the PPV sales, again Im not just talking aobut those 2 fights. Look at his other PPV numbers. He puts up very good numbers even against guys who are not big mainstream names. He puts up the same numbers that other guys put up in there super fights


                let me show you the diffrence between average floyd and fighters that are actually popular in America.


                VS Zab Judah generated 374,000 PPV buys

                Vs Gatti 365,000 buys

                vs Baldomir 325,000 pay-per-view buys


                Oscar Vs mayorga generated 925,000 buys

                Taylor-Hopkins II pulled in 410,000 PPV Buys

                Tarver-Jones III pulled in 415,000 Buys

                Trinidad vs Wright In 2005 pulled in 520,000 buys

                Shane Mosely vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 buys

                Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys

                Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys

                Tarver/Hopkins - 330,000 buys (06/2006)

                Mosley/Vargas II - 350,000 buys (07/2006)

                Pacquiao-Marquez 400,000 buys

                Other than Oscar and maybe Tito none of those other fighters have ever been cosidered very popular in the US. Notice how Floyds PPV numbers finish in the bottom part of this list when he isn't fighting Hatton or Oscar?


                Like i said before pretty ***ing average!!!!!

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                  #68
                  This a tune up..JMM will be lucky to get a round.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    let me show you the diffrence between average floyd and fighters that are actually popular in America.


                    VS Zab Judah generated 374,000 PPV buys

                    Vs Gatti 365,000 buys

                    vs Baldomir 325,000 pay-per-view buys


                    Oscar Vs mayorga generated 925,000 buys

                    Taylor-Hopkins II pulled in 410,000 PPV Buys

                    Tarver-Jones III pulled in 415,000 Buys

                    Trinidad vs Wright In 2005 pulled in 520,000 buys

                    Shane Mosely vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 buys

                    Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys

                    Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys

                    Tarver/Hopkins - 330,000 buys (06/2006)

                    Mosley/Vargas II - 350,000 buys (07/2006)

                    Pacquiao-Marquez 400,000 buys

                    Other than Oscar and maybe Tito none of those other fighters have ever been cosidered very popular in the US. Notice how Floyds PPV numbers finish in the bottom part of this list when he isn't fighting Hatton or Oscar?


                    Like i said before pretty ***ing average!!!!!
                    Ey...who gives a shyt?

                    He still the best boxer in the world...and hes still rich...and just him in talks with JMM has the boxing world going nuts.

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                    • Rope a Dope
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                      Yeah, but I believe Floyd Mayweather might bring better PPV buys this time around.
                      People want to see him now just so they can see him lose. It reminds me of the Yankees. People are so fed up with his bull**** that they just want somebody to shut him up.

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