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  • pistol whip
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    #51
    Originally posted by warp1432
    Are you ****ing kidding me? He brings money with a huge win over Margarito. He's not Oscar, but he's clearly a bigger draw then JMM. You talk about JMM being the 2nd best P4P, but that's because of the work he's done at a lower weight class and giving two tough fights to Pacquiao. JMM is a nightmare for someone like Pac and others, but not Floyd in which the fight probably won't be competitive. Shane would draw a lot more then JMM would. You also forget Shane is the #5 p4p and would also probably beat JMM as well.
    Again how is Shane a big draw now when he has never been a big draw????? Even in his prime???

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      #52
      Originally posted by DLT
      This is long but a must read! Mayweather fans, stop falling for this bull crap. The haterz have got so bad that they have convinced a ton of Floyd fans that they have to feel bad about this fight. Thats bull crap.

      In Floyd's WW fights he would weigh-in at 146 and come into the ring at 148. He even had to pot shot in most of his fights because the guys were so much bigger then him. Meanwhile JMM just KO a very very very good fighter in Diaz who was the best LW in the world and JMM looked physicaly very good in that fight. He's not that far off from Pac in terms of having a good body. JMM then called him out and now there fighting. This is not a tuneup. This is a real fight. By saying that its a tuneup, you will then be taking credit away from Floyd when that shouldnt be the case. Floyd is not Margarito, Williams, Clottey, or Cotto. I cant beleive how people dont care at all about Floyd fighting at 148 while those guys come in the ring between 162-170 pounds and one of them is currently fighting at MW. Margarito just got KO and his fans say that he was weight drained and should move up. Its a joke.

      How come its so bad for JMM to move up but no one has a problem with Williams going to fight guys like Pavlik at MW after just fighting Quintana or Mitchell? I dont hear anyone saying anything about that. Infact they say that Williams should fight Pavlik and he's a punk if he doesnt. Are we all forgetting about the Mayweather-Winky Wright proposal? I think people forget alot about the facts. Floyd had just beat Gatti at 140 while Winky had just killed Tito at MW. Floyd wasnt even a big 140 pounder and had only had 3 fights at that weight but not one single person said that Floyd shouldnt fight Winky. They were way way way further apart in size then Floyd-JMM and still everyone said that Floyd should fight Winky. Floyd was a small 140 pounder and wouldve had to jump straight to 154 to fight a guy who had fought at 154 his whole life and just fought at 160. A guy who came into the ring in his last fight at 168 pounds while Floyd was 144 for Gatti. That fight was so fair but Floyd-JMM isnt when Floyd comes in at 148 and JMM at 146? Remember, its not like Floyd is going back to step 1. Floyd has moved up in weight a ton of times also. Tell those WW's that you brag on so much to move up and lets see how they do besides Williams. They wont look the same at all. People make it sound like Floyd is a 160 pound WW in his 1st division picking on little JMM. Get real.

      Do you remember what alot of people said when the talks were breaking down? They actually ripped Floyd and blamed him. They called him a punk and said that he was the one that asked for the fight. Now JMM is asking for it but everyone is still ripping Floyd? Even with the size mismatch there were a ton of people saying that you shouldnt count Floyd out because he is a P4P beast. JMM is that same beast but he has no chance? Come on now, you guys are such hypocrites. Floyd fans, dont fall for it. JMM is the real deal. This is not a tuneup. It will only be a tuneup in the sense that Floyd treats everyone like a tuneup. How can you have a tuneup with maybe the best guy in the sport? Even still Floyd is fighting him at a catch weight when he didnt have to at all. Williams was just asking for Calzaghe to fight him all the way at 168 but JMM cant fight little Floyd? Did you guys see that AT&T commercial? Can any other WW look like that? He is a small guy but he's not going to sacrafice his future to appease JMM. For what? It makes no sense. The fact is simple. He's Floyd and whatever side of the fence he's on is the wrong side. He will always be wrong in a ton of fans & medias eyes. They despise him with a passion and he will always be the bad guy. He's a victim of his own talent. People penalyze him because he's talented enough to fight above his natural weight.

      When did we hear Floyd ever say that this was a tuneup? The closest thing weve ever heard was a reporter who said they talked to Floyd's friend who told them they wanted a tuneup before Pac and everyone jumps on that. Even now you have half the media saying that JMM is the tuneup and the other half are saying that he was talking about someone else before JMM, not JMM as the tuneup. Floyd in no way will call JMM a tuneup. How can JMM be a tuneup for Pac when alot of people think JMM beat Pac both times and is the P4P #1 guy in the sport? Its getting redicules. Dont get me wrong, I think Floyd kills him but thats only because I think Floyd kills just about everyone in history if he fights at his natural weight. Thats what people are misunderstanding. He's so good that its like he cant fight at his natural weight anymore or people will rip him. Yet when he fights above it then they rip him for pot shotting and running all fight long. Now there saying that Floyd may have a tuneup before JMM. Whats wrong with that? That would be great for boxing. I think he would be trying to make the JMM fight that much bigger. Im just sick of the double standard that people dont even realize that there doing. When you have a shot to fight the 2 best guys in the sport then you dont hesitate on that because it may not be on the table again or guys may lose. You have to jump at it because you can fight the other guys anytime after that


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        #53
        Originally posted by PoetryInMotion
        I see this fight as JMM selling his legacy, p4p ranking and status in the sport, I find it sad. JMM is a smarter fighter and can out think Floyd IMO, but the weight will lead to a Floyd KO of JMM.
        I hope not. I never wanted any fighter to win as much as i want JMM. I wish he would leave it alone and fight winner of Pac - Hat... He dont need to help floyd any or need Floyd. For waht Floys main and only concern is Money. Not his fans or boxing Himself and his bills. How can someone follow a guy like that in this sport is beyond me.

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        • Xcusemymood
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          #54
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Ugh because multiple fighters draw better numbers than floyd when they fight nobodies. In otherwords Floyd may compliment a popular fighters PPV numbers but he will never put good PPV numbers up on his own.And to make sure you understand Floyd is an average draw at best! I'm not exactly comparing him to Paul Williams dismal drawing power now am I?


          Hatton hasnt even had a PPV besides PBF and now Pac. What does that tell you? My God.

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            #55
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            If hatton was american? Who care's what country the fighter is from that has nothing to do with how popular they actually are? It's typical that an American like you would think that only American fans count. Nevermind that selling 1.2 million PPV's in England is like selling 2 million in America since the English pound is worth more than the American dollar.

            And how in the hell is floyd the most popular in america right now when that title is clearly held by Manny pacman. he isn't even American and people flock to this guy in America. When was the last time people were flocking to see Floyd train in his gym?? When have they ever held parades in his honor in this country? **** before the wraps incident Margarito himself was more popular in America than floyd.
            how old are you? 12? You make no sense. How is Pac more popular then Floyd? Have you seen his PPV sales? They flock to the gym because there all philapinos. They do that in his Country because Boxing is way bigger in there Country. What you said about Hatton's PPV sales make no sense. You dont even get what Im saying. Its just a much bigger sport in England and the Philipines. If Floyd was from there then he would be huge also. There are a ton of big Soccer stars but Soccer isnt big in the US so it doesnt matter. An American Soccer star wont be more famous then a Euro because the sport isnt as big here. Its the same with boxing.

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              #56
              Originally posted by animalavenue
              Hatton hasnt even had a PPV besides PBF and now Pac. What does that tell you? My God.

              That in one PPV Hatton had with Floyd he proved that his fans have made him as popular as Oscar was around the world.

              I think some of floyd's relatives might have bought a couple of PPV's so i guess he cotributed.

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              • DLT
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                #57
                How is JMM smarter then Floyd? Floyd is the smartest guy in boxing. No one changes styles from fight to fight like Floyd, no one can change styles round to round like him, and no one is better at making in-fight adjustments. How can JMM be better when his face is bruised in every fight, even against lower level guys? How can he be so smart when he let Pac drop him 3 times in one round when at that time in his career pac had nothing but a left hand. He got hit with the same punch over & over again for the whole fight. He never adjusted
                Last edited by DLT; 04-18-2009, 04:55 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by warp1432


                  It's a tune up because it's a fight for him to shake off the rust. That's pretty much what it is. If not, he would have fought Mosley and not JMM because Mosley attracts a lot more people then Marquez does. Especially off a big win over Margarito compared to Juan Diaz.

                  But then if Pac get by Hatton a Floyd/Pac fight would be "the super fight"? How can that be if JMM is a tune up for Floyd and at the same time Pac and JMM are relatively equal?

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                  • pistol whip
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    how old are you? 12? You make no sense. How is Pac more popular then Floyd? Have you seen his PPV sales? They flock to the gym because there all philapinos. They do that in his Country because Boxing is way bigger in there Country.
                    Which means what? Again popularity in America doesn't mean more than popularity anwhere else and the reason boxing is so popular in England and the phillipines is because both Pacman and Hatton made it popular there. It's not like they were hot beds of boxing before them. Floyd is the exact reason why boxing is floundering in America. Because nobody in America wants to get behind a gigantic douche bag who beats up the mother of his children and can't go thru a single interview without telling the whole world how much better he is than the rest of us. Just because Ricky and Pacman's fan base is primarily in another country that doesn't deminish that they are more popular than floyd could ever dream to be. Seriously please explain why being popular in America is the only way you can be a popular fighter?

                    You keep mentioning PPV sales but you keep dancing around the fact that these huge PPV sales were mainly because Floyds opponents were so popular not the other way around.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      How can JMM be better when his face is bruised in every fight
                      Because JMM fights guys who can hit him back thats why! He doesn't fight Carlos ***ing Baldomir and then calls himself the greatest ever.

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