This Fight Is Not A Tuneup and Stop Hating!

[DLT]

He gets the PPV numbers because of Hatton and De La hoya's fans. Just because he was part of the biggest PPV in history doesn't mean that it was his fan's who bought the fight.

The only real PPV mayweather carried was against Baldomir and that fight was about as successful as Margarito VS Cotto.

Face it Floyd is an average PPV draw at best.

And yes cotto may only get PR to watch his fights but seriously what would PBF draw in his adopted hometown if he fought Michael Jennings? couple thousand maybe??

Oh, my bad. I didnt know that Oscar & Hatton never had big fights before? He set records. They had a ton of other big fights and they made there most by far with Floyd. Also, Floyd vs Zab & Baldy did the same or more then a ton of other PPV fights with stars. He's beat out Pac, MAB, EM, JMM sereis and Cotto vs Margarito. Let Floyd had fought Cotto or Margarito then watch what the numbers wouldve been. Cotto cant fight anywhere else but NY and half of them are during the PR parade

[BrooklynBomber]

I say its gonna be a pretty interesting fight, and not a tune up by far.
If you are the sort of fighter who fights guys like JMM as a tune up, then you musta be fighting Jesus Christ next.

It would be interesting to see if Floyd lost any of it after almost two years of inactivity, as it is usually the speed/reflexes and coordination that are the first victims of a long stable stay.

[DLT]

dont need to. just the opening sentences with "the haters" is enough to let me know what this thread is all about. its no different from 99.9% of your other threads.

Floyd = scared to fight at 135-140.

any different from your Floyd = scared to fight at WW threads. How about your Cotto & Margarito hugging threads and now look what happened. The truth is that youre upset just like the others because you know that Floyd is about to own your heros in JMM & Pac. Face it and except it

[warp1432]

Why would I care about people picking JMM? If Floyd fights a top guy then there are going to be people picking the other guy. I dont care about that. A bunch of people will pick Pac to beat him but I dont care. How do you know that JMM coming in at 146 will be bad for him? HOw do you know that Pac can do it but JMM cant? Just like you said, Floyd weighed in at 150 for Oscar and came into the ring at 148. You do what you want. As far as your point of people Floyd, thats my main point. He gets penalyzed for being so good. Its not just about weight. If he fights anyone under WW then people will say that even though its Floyd's 3rd division also. Its like its unfair fo him to fight guys his own size because he's too good for them. He has to be at a disadvantge or its not a good fight

Because you've bitched before about people picking Cotto and Margarito to beat Floyd.

What's more important is I know JMM loses speed because he's lost speed moving up in weight. He's slower then he was at 126 and even 130. Going up in weight doesn't suit his style. Pacquiao hasn't lost really any speed at all.

It doesn't matter if it's his third division, if he's fighting there and champ (which he's not right now), then he needs to fight top welterweights.

It's not a tune up because what is it a tune up for? Presumably a fight with Pac, but most people consider JMM and Pac relatively equal.....The problem I think alot of people have with calling the fight tune up is that it is insulting to a great fighter like JMM.

It's a tune up because it's a fight for him to shake off the rust. That's pretty much what it is. If not, he would have fought Mosley and not JMM because Mosley attracts a lot more people then Marquez does. Especially off a big win over Margarito compared to Juan Diaz.

[DLT]

Because you've bitched before about people picking Cotto and Margarito to beat Floyd.

What's more important is I know JMM loses speed because he's lost speed moving up in weight. He's slower then he was at 126 and even 130. Going up in weight doesn't suit his style. Pacquiao hasn't lost really any speed at all.

It doesn't matter if it's his third division, if he's fighting there and champ (which he's not right now), then he needs to fight top welterweights.



It's a tune up because it's a fight for him to shake off the rust. That's pretty much what it is. If not, he would have fought Mosley and not JMM because Mosley attracts a lot more people then Marquez does. Especially off a big win over Margarito compared to Juan Diaz.

Stop talking crazy. JMM is the top or 2nd P4P guy in the sport. What are you even saying. Why would he automaticaly pick Shane over him? You act like Shane is Oscar. He dont bring any kind of money. Thats why he wants Floyd now. I havent said anything about people picking Cotto or Margarito over Floyd. Ive just said why I think he will win and there boys say why they think Cotto & Margarito will win. Its just normal talk. Even myself has said that because of the size, they will give Floyd problems. Stop acting like you know me. Youre just generalyzing because Im a Floyd fan. That use to be my whole point. I use to say that based on skill there is no one that thinks Margarito is P4P better then Floyd. Its 2 different leagues but Margarito may win just because of his size so what does that really prove? That tells you that they really shouldnt be fighting eachother. You only think Margarito can win because of size. Stop acting like you know me. Youre just generalyzing because Im a Floyd fan.

Then you talk about speed. Oh, I forgot that Floyd has the same speed he had at 130. Even Oscar when he fought Floyd said that he can beat Floyd because Floyd isnt the same guy at WW that he was at the lower classes. He said that he has average speed now and suspect power. Back when all the WW's were calling out Floyd, they were all saying that he is too small to beat them. Williams use to call Margarito & Cotto punks for calling out Floyd. He said that they just want him because they know he's not a real WW and doesnt belong there. Then the next day he would call out Floyd his ownself. Its the same for Cintron. He use to always say that Floyd isnt a real WW and would get hurt by any of the big boys so he should shut up

[Xcusemymood]

I dont get what you mean by this. You must be talking about something else you read and not my thread

Glad im not the only one who caught that.

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Oh, my bad. I didnt know that Oscar & Hatton never had big fights before?

Thats becasue so many people hate Floyd and wanted their hero(hatton, De La hoya) to KO the annoying *******.

I'll give floyd credit for how his villian role played a big part in selling those fights but the fact is Floyd has to have an extreamly popular fighter for that to work. Hatton and De La Hoya sell out stadiums fighting journeyman which floyd has never accomplished and comparing Floyd to MAB, JMM, and Morales goes to show you how poor of a draw he really is. Those guys are only popular in certin regions!!!! They arn't great stars in the grand scheme of things especially since they fought mostly at featherweight or JR Lightweight which isn't exactly full of PPV stars.


Are you gonna compare floyds PPV numbers to Michael Carbajals PPV numbers next?

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It's a tune up because it's a fight for him to shake off the rust. That's pretty much what it is. If not, he would have fought Mosley and not JMM because Mosley attracts a lot more people then Marquez does. Especially off a big win over Margarito compared to Juan Diaz.

Mosely draws more people? When has he ever been a big draw?? **** I remember after he beat De la hoya he was still fighting Vernon forrest in a small auditorium and i think that Mayorga match drew like 3 or 4 thousand.

Wooo Hoooo he basically sells out high School gyms look out!!!!

[DLT]

Thats becasue so many people hate Floyd and wanted their hero(hatton, De La hoya) to KO the annoying *******.

I'll give him credit that floyd's villian role played a big part in selling those fights but the fact is Floyd has to have an extreamly popular fighter for that to work. Hatton and De La Hoya sell out stadiums fighting journeyman and comparing Floyd to MAB, JMM, and Morales goes to show you how poor of a draw he really is. Those guys are only popular in certin regions!!!! They arn't great stars in the grans scheme of things especially since they fought mostley at featherweight or JR Lightweight which arn't exactly full of PPV stars.


Are you gonna compare floyds PPV numbers to Michael Carbajals PPV numbers next?

Im comparing him because they were the biggest names and most hyped fighters in the sport. You do know this is American boxing right? Its not like youre going to be crazy popular in this day and time but the fact is that Floyd is the #1 guy right now with Oscar gone and you cant dispute that. He's much more popular then any other guy in boxing unless your just talking about Hatton or guys from England being popluar in there own Country. Hatton isnt popular. He just has those fans because boxing is still a huge sport over there. Its the same with all the other Nationalities. If Floyd was from where Hatton was then he would be way bigger then Hatton and you know it. If Hatton was an American then he wouldnt have a quarter of the fans that he has now and you know it

[Xcusemymood]

He gets the PPV numbers because of Hatton and De La hoya's fans. Just because he was part of the biggest PPV in history doesn't mean that it was his fan's who bought the fight.

The only real PPV mayweather carried was against Baldomir and that fight was about as successful as Margarito VS Cotto.

Face it Floyd is an average PPV draw at best.

And yes cotto may only get PR to watch his fights but seriously what would PBF draw in his adopted hometown if he fought Michael Jennings? couple thousand maybe??

Your digging yourself a deeper hole each post.