This Fight Is Not A Tuneup and Stop Hating!

[cosmichorn]

already made this thread, but with a less lengthy message

[warp1432]

JMM coming in at 146 is not fair. He loses to much in speed and that's why it's considered. One other member here argued that he doesn't have to come in at that and that's the only reason why I've kinda come around, but it's still not really a great match up. Even if it's fair in size, I don't think anyone expects the fight to be remotely competitive.

It's also considered a tune up because it's a bout to shake off the rust. Also if it was considered a real match up, a lot more people would pick JMM and then you'd ***** about how to many people are picking JMM.

[pistol whip]

?????um yea..baldo was the lineal champ...

He was a ***ing Cinderella man!!! Thats like saying Jimmy braddock was the best HW Joe louis ever fought because he was the "Lineal Champ".


Baldo may have been lineal champ but he sure as hell wasn't a top 50 PFP fighter at the time either. Why in the *** should I give credit for that when the #1 PFP boxer has no buissness fighting a guy who never even cracked the top 50???

[DLT]

already made this thread, but with a less lengthy message

Your thread was not nearly the same as this. Your thread was basicaly just about JMM being a good fighter who is capable of beating Floyd. Thats something that a regular JMM fan couldve wrote

[Spray_resistant]

JMM coming in at 146 is not fair. He loses to much in speed and that's why it's considered. One other member here argued that he doesn't have to come in at that and that's the only reason why I've kinda come around, but it's still not really a great match up. Even if it's fair in size, I don't think anyone expects the fight to be remotely competitive.

It's also considered a tune up because it's a bout to shake off the rust. Also if it was considered a real match up, a lot more people would pick JMM and then you'd ***** about how to many people are picking JMM.

It's not a tune up because what is it a tune up for? Presumably a fight with Pac, but most people consider JMM and Pac relatively equal.....The problem I think alot of people have with calling the fight tune up is that it is insulting to a great fighter like JMM.

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I dont get what you mean by this. You must be talking about something else you read and not my thread

PBF floyd fan's dismiss JMM as a tune up but yet they consider a win against Baldomir this great ***ing accomplishment.

I was just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[DLT]

JMM coming in at 146 is not fair. He loses to much in speed and that's why it's considered. One other member here argued that he doesn't have to come in at that and that's the only reason why I've kinda come around, but it's still not really a great match up. Even if it's fair in size, I don't think anyone expects the fight to be remotely competitive.

It's also considered a tune up because it's a bout to shake off the rust. Also if it was considered a real match up, a lot more people would pick JMM and then you'd ***** about how to many people are picking JMM.

Why would I care about people picking JMM? If Floyd fights a top guy then there are going to be people picking the other guy. I dont care about that. A bunch of people will pick Pac to beat him but I dont care. How do you know that JMM coming in at 146 will be bad for him? HOw do you know that Pac can do it but JMM cant? Just like you said, Floyd weighed in at 150 for Oscar and came into the ring at 148. You do what you want. As far as your point of people Floyd, thats my main point. He gets penalyzed for being so good. Its not just about weight. If he fights anyone under WW then people will say that even though its Floyd's 3rd division also. Its like its unfair fo him to fight guys his own size because he's too good for them. He has to be at a disadvantge or its not a good fight

[Allucard]

I'm just pissed off he doesn't seem to be fighting any of the elite welterweights. JMM is a great fighter, so fair enough, but why not fight the elite welterweights? Unless then this JMM fight should be considered a tune-up?

because there aren't any. with the exception of shane mosley, which welterweights are coming off big successful fights? none. there's no money in fighting anyone margarito has beat, believe that!

[DLT]

Remember, its not like Floyd is going back to step 1. Floyd has moved up in weight a ton of times also. Tell those WW's that you brag on so much to move up and lets see how they do besides Williams. They wont look the same at all. People make it sound like Floyd is a 160 pound WW in his 1st division picking on little JMM. Get real

[pistol whip]

Why would I care about people picking JMM? If Floyd fights a top guy then there are going to be people picking the other guy. I dont care about that. A bunch of people will pick Pac to beat him but I dont care. How do you know that JMM coming in at 146 will be bad for him? HOw do you know that Pac can do it but JMM cant? Just like you said, Floyd weighed in at 150 for Oscar and came into the ring at 148. You do what you want. As far as your point of people Floyd, thats my main point. He gets penalyzed for being so good. Its not just about weight. If he fights anyone under WW then people will say that even though its Floyd's 3rd division also. Its like its unfair fo him to fight guys his own size because he's too good for them. He has to be at a disadvantge or its not a good fight

Nobody is saying that floyds talent is overrated! What he gets attacked for most of the time is that he has taken on very few fighters that can actually hit him back. Marquez would be a step in the right direction as well as fighting pacman and any of the top 3 at ww right now.


he should only be fighting guys with the same skill set that he has from here on out and anything less is a crock of ****.