Pacquiao vs. Hatton - Manny Says "I am Hungry To Win"

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  • aztecadq
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    #91
    Hatton > De La Hoya

    I gotta give Pacquiao credit he's made many good fighters look silly in the ring. I don't think De La Hoya was the toughest test he's ever had. By far, Hatton is going to be a tougher test then De La Hoya. If Pacquiao can beat Hatton, then this will be just one more step forward towards greatness for him in the sport of boxing.

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    • kymira
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      #92
      Originally posted by hammerhiem
      well he walks into the ring at 155 so putting on 20lb is hardly mindblowing. I would think most people are at least 20 heavier than their absolute peak physical weight.

      Seriously though a close hard fight would be the best thing for boxing and like you say let the best man win.
      You right 20 pounds aint much to cut from, there are far worst cases. But you gotta admit Ricky does overdo it with binge eating/drinking compared to your average prizefighter.

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      • jetgeomcx
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        #93
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        Morales had been at Super-Featherweight for 5 fights before he fought Pacquiao. He was well and truly a Super-Featherweight by then. The weight he started at is irrelevant, Pacquiao won his first world title at Flyweight, but he's not a Flyweight now.

        Solis had been at Super-Featherweight for 4 fights before fighting Pac.

        JMM had been at Super-Featherweight for 2 fights and had beaten Barrera and Juarez, so had well and truly proved himself at the weight.

        Those three at least were genuine Super-Featherweights when they fought him, and proven at the weight.
        plus the fact that manny moved up in some of those fyts, or just barely moved up. also, nobody in all those names above started at 106 lbs. what more can they ask of manny?? they criticize his not cleaning up a division, yet they give very little credit for moving 10 divisions up!! feeble minded people…some of them. “one can’t see a mountain when his eyes got sand…”

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        • shadeyfizzle
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          #94
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          Morales had been at Super-Featherweight for 5 fights before he fought Pacquiao. He was well and truly a Super-Featherweight by then. The weight he started at is irrelevant, Pacquiao won his first world title at Flyweight, but he's not a Flyweight now.

          Solis had been at Super-Featherweight for 4 fights before fighting Pac.

          JMM had been at Super-Featherweight for 2 fights and had beaten Barrera and Juarez, so had well and truly proved himself at the weight.

          Those three at least were genuine Super-Featherweights when they fought him, and proven at the weight.
          And David Diaz had started his career at 140lbs. Had beaten Zab Judah in the amaters, and whose only loss up to that point was to Kendall freakin Holt.

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          • jetgeomcx
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            #95
            Originally posted by jching
            Oscar was too big. In order for it to be a fair fight, Hatton would have had to move up to Oscar's weight or Oscar would become too small and dead at the weight moving down to Hattons weight. Oh wait, that already happened with Pacquiao.
            this is precisely why the assumption that "ricky can easily beat 'that' oscar" will not hold. firstly ricky got no balls to face oscar, he didn't even try to negotiate the weight. secondly oscar will probably accept at 147+ therefor he will have a different training strategy. bottom line of that fyt is another tko lose for ricky!!

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            • jetgeomcx
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              #96
              Originally posted by HattonFaithful
              agreed hatton wouldnt dominate them in the same fashion because hatton is a different style of fighter...just like you said styles make fights and hatton and pac have two very different styles so theres no way he would have dominated them in the same fashion but he would have dominated them non-the-less
              highly contentious, debatable, a mere assumption that will forever remain a perception. I can also opine: no, ricky will have a very hard fyt if he fought david diaz during that nyt…… see the other side of your coin. huhummmmm…

              everyone is entitled to his own opinion. everyone is either correct or wrong until proven on d-day. we keep this healthy exchange of ideas. good thing there is no name calling, or personal attacks so far. keep this up...and coming.

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              • Dave Rado
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                #97
                Originally posted by jetgeomcx
                this is precisely why the assumption that "ricky can easily beat 'that' oscar" will not hold. firstly ricky got no balls to face oscar, he didn't even try to negotiate the weight. secondly oscar will probably accept at 147+ therefor he will have a different training strategy. bottom line of that fyt is another tko lose for ricky!!
                You're being unfair here, Hatton said that he wanted to fight the DLH-Pacquiao winner, whoever it may be. Before that, he was offered a fight with DLH (just before Pac was) and said he wasn't ready yet, but that he did want to fight him.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  And David Diaz had started his career at 140lbs. Had beaten Zab Judah in the amaters, and whose only loss up to that point was to Kendall freakin Holt.
                  David Diaz hadn't beaten a top Lightweight though. (Unless you think Santa Cruz is a top Lightweight). And he is very slow.

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                  • southcalihds
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                    #99
                    ok lets get this party started. all the gay fatton peeps will have an excuse or not show up here cuss fatton will be sleepin. just face it he will lose pac man will knock that brit out.

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                    • Pinuno
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                      Ok, I understand that people got it misconstrued about two knock
                      outs by body punches but I'm talking about you saying that Pacquiao
                      was weight drained and that was the cause of him getting KO'd by
                      a punch but Oscar was weight drained too, so could that be the
                      reason Oscar loss? My point is that the excuses don't hold
                      no weight. Because your not trying to hear that Manny win was
                      a fluke against Oscar right? So others are not trying to hear that
                      Manny body punch KO came do to him being weight drained.

                      The big diffrence is that:
                      - pacfans DID NOT take Singsurat win away from him due to weight drain.
                      - pachaters discrediting PAC wins against DLH for the same reason.

                      And his loss against Singsurat and Torrecampo, that took place more than 10 years ago, is being used against him. How can one accurately assess a boxer from a such fights happened in his early career?

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