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  • RL_GMA
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    #71
    Originally posted by pacman777
    opinionated? p4p rankings are from majority, media/critics/analyst/websites/boxing associations etc...

    and i dont think just because you are p4p doesn't mean you beat all boxers, it just means p4p you are the best. dont misinterpret

    lets say marquez and cotto fights at 140, p4p i think marquez is the way better fighter
    Yea exactly, those are the opinions of the writers. There's no "official" requisite of being a "P4P" ranked fighter. A lot of it is based on popularity and recent fights that particular fighter may have won, which could constitute for some type of requisite, but in the end it's still very opinionated.
    Many other fighters & writers alike also believe the P4P ranking system isn't the most credible source. Like for instance, many people think it's crazy not to have Wlad Klitschko on the P4P list being he's the most dominant Heavyweight in the division and is the recognized champ (regardless if the division is ****). But being he's not a very exciting fighter, he's not on the "P4P" list, but in the end is that a fair call or is it just what it is, a popularity contest?

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    • RRICAN
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      #72
      Originally posted by pacman777
      opinionated? p4p rankings are from majority, media/critics/analyst/websites/boxing associations etc...

      and i dont think just because you are p4p doesn't mean you beat all boxers, it just means p4p you are the best. dont misinterpret

      lets say marquez and cotto fights at 140, p4p i think marquez is the way better fighter
      AT 140 DEFIN. HE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS MAKING THAT WEIGHT, BUT AT 147 I THINK COTTO WOULD WIN BY UD OR LATE KO

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      • RL_GMA
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        #73
        Originally posted by RRICAN
        AT 140 DEFIN. HE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS MAKING THAT WEIGHT, BUT AT 147 I THINK COTTO WOULD WIN BY UD OR LATE KO
        But here's the point too, if you're already giving one fighter an advantage by the other dude dropping weight, how can you call THAT guy with the advantage could beat his opponent at his best?

        I think some dudes were just not meant to fight. Pacquiao is just one of those guys that comes maybe once a generation that can defy those odds being he fought in 3 diff divisions in one year. Name the last fighter in recent years to do that.

        This is why I believe with Floyd, if you're going to fight him fight at 147 where Floyd will be at his best. Don't take unnecessary steps to take one advantage away from another fighter just to get the fight made. In the end regardless of the winner you're always going to have that cloud of doubt whether it was the weight shifting, one guy being too strong or too big, etc.
        Pac IMO is the only guy that could fight competitively at 140-147 from coming up recently from the lower weights.

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        • NAPO
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          #74
          Originally posted by pacman777
          diaz can't punch? a preassure fighter that cannot punch? lolz dont clown
          exactly you idiot. watch more boxing instead of watching only pacquiao fights.

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          • dans
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            #75
            Ummmm. Marquez was nearly knocked out by Juan Diaz, who isn't exactly a KO artist. What do you think Cotto would do to him? Marquez is the better fighter and would beat almost anyone from 135-140, but not Cotto.

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            • Ch@mpBox@PR
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              #76
              TS is a idiot, he doesnt now, anything!!!!!!!!!!

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              • them_apples
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                #77
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                Cotto KOs him, JMM is great technically unfortunately he is too small.

                Pac have a better chance at Cotto, wich isnt much!!!!!!
                I agree, although I think Pacquiao with his style has a good chance of beating Cotto.

                JMM might be one of the most skilled fighters in the game right now, but he would get hit, his chin is average at best it's only his heart that has kept him going. I think Cotto would overpower him because I can't see Marquez deciding to fight on the back foot.

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                • RRICAN
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by RL_GMA
                  But here's the point too, if you're already giving one fighter an advantage by the other dude dropping weight, how can you call THAT guy with the advantage could beat his opponent at his best?

                  I think some dudes were just not meant to fight. Pacquiao is just one of those guys that comes maybe once a generation that can defy those odds being he fought in 3 diff divisions in one year. Name the last fighter in recent years to do that.

                  This is why I believe with Floyd, if you're going to fight him fight at 147 where Floyd will be at his best. Don't take unnecessary steps to take one advantage away from another fighter just to get the fight made. In the end regardless of the winner you're always going to have that cloud of doubt whether it was the weight shifting, one guy being too strong or too big, etc.
                  Pac IMO is the only guy that could fight competitively at 140-147 from coming up recently from the lower weights.

                  GOOD POST.... THAT IS WHY I DONT GET ALL THIS CATCH WEIGHT FIGHTS HAPPENING NOW A DAYS. THATS IS AFFECTING BOXING THE SAME OR MORE THAN THE (IBF,WBC & WBO ) BLOCKING UNIFICATION FIGHTS LIKE THE COTTO VS CLOTTEY FIGHT. DAMMMN I JUST NOTICED MY CAPS ON

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                  • VaBoriKua 2.0
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by {}{}MATADOR{}{}
                    Williams would whoop Cotto's ass, it's just hard for Ch@mp to admit it...
                    actually i think cotto breaks willimas ribs and williams would destroy jmm

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                    • VaBoriKua 2.0
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      why does quitnana need to get KTFO again?
                      NO just williams doesnt wanna get beat down in 12 again

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